2010 Evolution Gsr

Mods:

-All the AMS boltons!
(Full Tbe, Intercooler w/ Piping, and Intake)

- Aem Meth kit

- forge wga

VIDEO:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GazCCyEvYLs

I decided that I needed more power and called Pete from DG Motors who hooks me up every time and I've been in contact with him for the past year. It was a last second decision to do meth injection but Pete had absolutely no problem and gave me a sick price for the kit, install,tune.

He told me to bring the car down as soon as the Aem Meth Kit arrived which happened to be on a Friday. Of course it had to be raining like crazy out for my 2 hour drive plus 2 hours in traffic, but it was well worth it. When I got there it was about 7:30, I hung out at the shop and watched a few evolution's get tuned and then Pete took me out to to get food and we went back to his house to eat and discuss the installation which Pete told me would be clean and custom. After all this he drove me to the train station at about 9pm, I got into Manhattan at 10pm and took the damn bus from there, and finally got home at 11:30, the things I do for my car!

Pete and I kept in contact through out the week like we usually do, texting each other and he made me feel my car is in good hands. Finally, the Aem Meth Kit arrived on Wednesday which gave Pete two days to do a custom install and re-tune the car.

When my car was all done Friday night, Pete took the car home later that night to personally log it like it was his own. I then came out on his Saturday off for him to give me my car and show me the custom installation and go through the data logs.

The car is a whole new animal now and the install is very clean and custom! It deff took some time looking at the installation and the work speaks for itself. Pete even included an active arm system switch which was NOT included in the kit and wired it up for no extra charge just to add an even more custom look!

The car spools like a straight beast and even at partial throttle the car feels like it just wants to go. It is amazing what a little methanol can do when tuned correctly. There are completely no misfires and the car is as smooth as my girl’s ass! My Car made 376whp/390wtq at 28.5 psi on a 15%cf to match their local D JET and keep my numbers within the industry.

From my last tune I gained 33whp and 50wtq! Overall, I am very happy with the tune and the main thing I feel is that the car keeps pulling all the way to redline, it feels great. Pete is not only a great and honest tuner but a great friend. He even drove all the way out to meet up with my crew and I who all own Evo's 8, 9, and X and have all been tuned by Pete to personally give us track side assistance in the beginning of the summer during a 2-day drag racing event at Atco, got a hotel with his fiance, and then came out again on Sunday to make sure we were all in good hands again.

I have now made the 3 hour trip several times to his shop now and will be coming again real soon. My whole car group gets all of their Evo's tuned there as well and Pete from DG Motors is a great shop!

Up next is cams and turbo! 500whp!

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376whp/390wtq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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28.5psi

I have a little video footage of the install as well, waiting for Pete to post up the video.

VIDEO:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GazCCyEvYLs

Decent numbers. I hate Meth...death trap IMHO

Decent numbers. I hate Meth...death trap IMHO
I know i wish I could go e 85
btw good numbers.... Pete is the man

yea man if i could do E-85 i would but no pumps for a while by me, meth is fine, and pete is my man hooks me up big time

o yea im on some big ass advan rz rims 18x10 wit 265. 35 tires, i bet thats keepin some power from me but o well im lookin siick wit them, gunmetal :)

if you needed more power why didn't you bolt on that red?

because im sellin it and gettin something else, and im still on the stuck clutch bradaa!

My Car made 376whp/390wtq at 28.5 psi on a 15%cf



So in reality it makes 320whp / 331wtq

- Bryan

orrr the power posted on a d jet

i saw your car at dg last friday when i got my evo x tuned nice rims though and numbers.

So in reality it makes 320whp / 331wtq

- Bryan

I find your math on these new DG threads quite entertaining :)

i saw your car at dg last friday when i got my evo x tuned nice rims though and numbers.

thanks man i love those bad boys!

can u teach me how this correction factor works on certain dyno?

I find your math on these new DG threads quite entertaining :)

can u teach me how this correction factor works on certain dyno?

Here is a video to show you how much different Pete's dyno can read from a dynojet:

video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpaQBzzvaKs

So in reality it makes 320whp / 331wtq

- Bryan

So in reality when I see a nice car in one of your threads, I applaud you with positive comments and you bash on every single one of mine.

I can not believe you actually offered to help me with the SST mapping on the World Record Evo X MR I recently tuned...

I almost dropped to the floor.

So in reality when I see a nice car in one of your threads, I applaud you with positive comments and you bash on every single one of mine.

I can not believe you actually offered to help me with the SST mapping on the World Record Evo X MR I recently tuned...

I almost dropped to the floor.

Since when is posting the actual numbers without correction bashing?

What world record? The stock clutch plates world record? Let's be honest, that is the most recockulious 'world record' ever, no disrespect intended.

- Bryan

So in reality when I see a nice car in one of your threads, I applaud you with positive comments and you bash on every single one of mine.

Correction factors on dynos is one of his pet peeves. I'm sure you've figured that out by now.

There's nothing wrong with 320 on meth. I assume that E85 is only 350 or so on your dyno.

On mother fucking fire!! Wooooooo!!!!

Decent numbers. I hate Meth...death trap IMHO

I know i wish I could go e 85
btw good numbers.... Pete is the man

To be honest I have the methanol injection pretty well thought out and the Aem Meth Kit is pretty good bang for buck!

First off, Tehpra released the Tephra Meth Mod for the evo x. This methanol failsafe is done through the ecu in relation to the aem methanol controller.


Thread can be found here, It's genious:

http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-x-engine-management-tuning-forums/497325-tephraxmod-v1.html

The next way to setup a failsafe is with the old school mac valves which are almost like the 3-ports everyone uses for better boost control.

Methanol is actually pretty safe when planned accordingly with the proper failsafe(s).

Correction factors on dynos is one of his pet peeves. I'm sure you've figured that out by now.

There's nothing wrong with 320 on meth. I assume that E85 is only 350 or so on your dyno.

Correct, and that is a LOT of power on my dyno.

Some Evo's are lucky to see 280whp with full bolt-ons with 93 Octane.

Most Evo's will just barely crack 300whp with cams.

350-370 is doable with the stock turbo on E-85 "on the edge" tuning.

Just being honest with everyone, my dyno is the heart breaker just like Gst and Buschur.

On a side note, I give my clients the option to stay in-line with the industry standard which happens to be the dynojet.

im the type of person that just wants my car to go fastt! numbers sound good but its all about going fast in the drag, so low 12's for me is all i want. DG ran 11.0 last time with a stock frame turbo thats all that counts!

people are hating....omg high school drama

Since when is posting the actual numbers without correction bashing?

What world record? The stock clutch plates world record? Let's be honest, that is the most recockulious 'world record' ever, no disrespect intended.

- Bryan

93 Octane, as well.

A record is a record in my book.

I just don't understand every thread with decent hp on a CF, you say: "in reality this car makes....".

No, on a dynojet, this car makes xxx

That is all there is too it.

I think we should only post torque graphs without numbers. The only numbers posted should be percentage gains. Maybe we could show the AFR and RPM numbers too but definitely not HP and Torque. That would end all this dyno comparison nonsense. Its confusing and serves nothing more than pointless back & forth bickering.

I just don't understand every thread with decent hp on a CF, you say: "in reality this car makes....".



No, on your dyno, with 15% added. So with 15% taken away, its what it ACTUALLY MADE ON THE DYNO.

I'm not saying the cars aren't making power, I'm posting the actual real numbers the car actually puts down to the wheels when it did that pull on the dyno.

You keep thinking this is a dig at the numbers, but it isn't.

can some one tell me how on Big als dyno (dynoflash) when he was at ics he tuned a evo x with only catback, intake, fmic and i think it was at 26-27 psi the car made 350whp/435wtq. lol people should be crackin on that shit, thats nutss, how do u make all that tq with no meth no tp no dp, no parts at all lol wtf

Cmon you two, who gives a shit about these numbers. If you guy want to bicker about the small shit, do it over PMs. None of us on this board want to listen to it in every thread. Numbers are numbers and who gives a shit either way. As long as the other guy is happy that is all that matters.

Cmon you two, who gives a shit about these numbers. If you guy want to bicker about the small shit, do it over PMs. None of us on this board want to listen to it in every thread. Numbers are numbers and who gives a shit either way. As long as the other guy is happy that is all that matters.

I absolutely completely agree with you Joey!

I never dyno flame even though I have one of the lowest reading dyno's on the planet, It's nice to offer a CF to put numbers in-line with a dynojet which everyone knows is the industry standard.

I am currently in the process of selling my dynodynamics anyway. Purchasing a dynojet will make life that much easier:rock:

Sorry to take away from your thread Nick and I am not being defensive GST. I know you know the car is making the power but every single thread with my name included/CF change you comment on.

I would not offer the 15% CF if I didn't perform extensive back to back same day testing on my own personal time.

If anything guys, these cars are making more power than being advertised, most def. not any less...

Back on topic with Nick's blazing fast 2010 gsr!!!

Yeah, who gives a shit about numbers. If it feels fast, that's all that matters.

:thumbup: Thanks pete!

Yeah, who gives a shit about numbers. If it feels fast, that's all that matters.

That is somewhat true.

The proof is in the puddin' when a car traps the speed it should.

The track is the real world dyno, no one can disagree with that...

The whole dyno correction bs is just getting annoying, if you look over on the mazdaspeedforums John@shop ct is posting dynos of cars he's tuned and will not reveal the correction factor at all, just says it makes 3xx on a dyno dynamics which is very misleading. With a little searching ive found he puts the c/f at 1.2.

From now on i would just post the uncorrected results, if there so worried about a number have them go to a dynojet.

Any plans to make a track trip?

like i said I SAID #s dont mean much to me, the track is everything

and yea go to E Town the 23rd alot of people are going to be there

The whole dyno correction bs is just getting annoying, if you look over on the mazdaspeedforums John@shop ct is posting dynos of cars he's tuned and will not reveal the correction factor at all, just says it makes 3xx on a dyno dynamics which is very misleading. With a little searching ive found he puts the c/f at 1.2.

From now on i would just post the uncorrected results, if there so worried about a number have them go to a dynojet.

Any plans to make a track trip?
Truth

I can't lie though when some one tells me their dyno numbers and says it's a mustang or DD I add to it to figure out what they are making on a jet.

What ever though some one already stated all that matters are the gains especially if you have a stock dyno pull to base things off of on the same dyno and then trap speeds you can pull down at the track.

The whole dyno correction bs is just getting annoying, if you look over on the mazdaspeedforums John@shop ct is posting dynos of cars he's tuned and will not reveal the correction factor at all, just says it makes 3xx on a dyno dynamics which is very misleading. With a little searching ive found he puts the c/f at 1.2.

From now on i would just post the uncorrected results, if there so worried about a number have them go to a dynojet.

Any plans to make a track trip?

That is a totally different story and the correction factor should always be posted so no one gets confused.

Try doing this to pay bills, some clients prefer higher numbers. Everyone gets explained the difference and I actually prefer the standard defaulted settings of a 1.0cf but some do not.

We will be going to the track with a good amount of cars that have been tuned previously on October 23rd, 2010.

Truth

I can't lie though when some one tells me their dyno numbers and says it's a mustang or DD I add to it to figure out what they are making on a jet.

What ever though some one already stated all that matters are the gains especially if you have a stock dyno pull to base things off of on the same dyno and then trap speeds you can pull down at the track.

Track numbers are the important part. The track will tell you how much power your car is actually making. The actual trapspeed (MPH) is the most important factor when measuring your car's power output...It will never lie.

The easiest way to do this is by rolling out nice and easy at the starting line and then going full throttle to the best of your ability. This will give you the highest trap speed by just rolling out nice and easy and than banging gears all the way to the finish line. When you go around and get your time slip, check out the mph and there you have it, no questioning.

It does not matter if you use a 5% or 50% correction factor, at the end of the day a proper baseline (before and after) during your tuning session will be the accurate determination of horsepower and torque gains. Your car will still be in-line with everyone else if tuned properly.

Like I said above, I prefer the standard setting of a 1.0cf. When you make 280whp and smoke someone making 290-300whp, you leave the guy making "supposedly" more horsepower scratching his/her head.....

Oh look, another attempt at DG advertising.

Oh look, another attempt at DG advertising.
Haven't been here long but why you guys ragging on them so much? They seem legit.

people always have something stupid to say, i just dont get it

Haven't been here long but why you guys ragging on them so much? They seem legit.


There have been a lot of questionable claims from them in the past, and they failed to get vendor status, which you can take as you will. Not only that, but a lot of their posts can come off as advertisements.

Essentially, they've left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths. Like Murlo did to Hotdog.

There have been a lot of questionable claims from them in the past, and they failed to get vendor status, which you can take as you will. Not only that, but a lot of their posts can come off as advertisements.

Essentially, they've left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths. Like Murlo did to Hotdog.

Hey leave me out of this.

Hey leave me out of this.


Sorry, I'm just jealous of the relationship between you and the little weiner...

There have been a lot of questionable claims from them in the past, and they failed to get vendor status, which you can take as you will. Not only that, but a lot of their posts can come off as advertisements.

Essentially, they've left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths. Like Murlo did to Hotdog.
Honestly on my other sites if your not a paying vendor you can't even have a screen name like them and promote tunes so I can see from that stand point. Work quality wise though if they are decent then that's good. The more decent vendors the better.

Honestly on my other sites if your not a paying vendor you can't even have a screen name like them and promote tunes so I can see from that stand point. Work quality wise though if they are decent then that's good. The more decent vendors the better.


Agreed, but once again there's questions of their quality, especially when they always post corrected dyno numbers to bump up the numbers. I don't really want to add fuel to the fire, so I just suggest looking back through threads about their company to find out.

they've left a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths. Like Murlo did to Hotdog.

Ha!!:bowlol:

Agreed, but once again there's questions of their quality, especially when they always post corrected dyno numbers to bump up the numbers. I don't really want to add fuel to the fire, so I just suggest looking back through threads about their company to find out.
From what I've seen they post correct corrected and uncorrected and if they don't then they should. You got to addmitt in the car world higher numbers look better. If you were in Colorado and tracking your car would you want to put up a 13.5 slip and explain that cause of elevation you should be at mid 12's? Same go for the Mustang and DD dyno machines.

I watched a stock nissan GTR Dyno 359whp on the CPE mustang you think its fair the guy should have to claim he only makes 350's for horse power? Car doesn't make 350whp So that's why I can see some shops adding the 15% to match it to dynojet standards. Then again some shops get alittle happy with the correct factors and fuck it up for trusting the corrections....

From what I've seen they post correct corrected and uncorrected. You got to addmitt in the car world higher numbers look better. If you were in Colorado and tracking your car would you want to put up a 13.5 slip and explain that cause of elevation you should be at mid 12's? Same go for the Mustang and DD dyno machines.

I watched a stock nissan GTR Dyno 359whp on the CPE mustang you think its fair the guy should have to claim he only makes 350's for horse power? Car doesn't make 350whp So that's why I can see some shops adding the 15% to match it to dynojet standards. Then again some shops get alittle happy with the correct factors and fuck it up for trusting the corrections....

I think most people would understand that a boosted engine at an altitude like Colorado's won't perform as well. As for uncorrected numbers, just understand that some dynos read lower. Buschur doesn't super correct theirs, and they have a notoriously low dyno.

I dunno, I think the important thing is gain over baseline. If you can post both of those, well, that'd be the best option.

Buschur doesn't super correct theirs, and they have a notoriously low dyno.The thing is though, they have more 8 and 9 second Evos than I have erections in an hour during an all-Eyler dance fest on the TV in my mind. They don't NEED to prove anything.

I think most people would understand that a boosted engine at an altitude like Colorado's won't perform as well.The thing is, I don't think most people would understand that, at least not consciously. BIG NUMBERS SELL. They LIKE big numbers. We LIKE winning, and succeeding, and BEING BETTER THAN OTHERS.

I dunno, I think the important thing is gain over baseline. If you can post both of those, well, that'd be the best option.

Agreed, completely. And that's one of the things I can actually accomplish on this build; same tuner, same dyno, each time. Perfect for comparing.

The thing is though, they have more 8 and 9 second Evos than I have erections in an hour during an all-Eyler dance fest on the TV in my mind. They don't NEED to prove anything.

The thing is, I don't think most people would understand that, at least not consciously. BIG NUMBERS SELL. They LIKE big numbers. We LIKE winning, and succeeding, and BEING BETTER THAN OTHERS.



Agreed, completely. And that's one of the things I can actually accomplish on this build; same tuner, same dyno, each time. Perfect for comparing.


We essentially agree. Until these guys prove themselves after past incidents and change popular opinion, people will rag on them, yeah?

We share a brain.

If only we could share more.

From what I've seen they post correct corrected and uncorrected and if they don't then they should. You got to addmitt in the car world higher numbers look better. If you were in Colorado and tracking your car would you want to put up a 13.5 slip and explain that cause of elevation you should be at mid 12's? Same go for the Mustang and DD dyno machines.

I watched a stock nissan GTR Dyno 359whp on the CPE mustang you think its fair the guy should have to claim he only makes 350's for horse power? Car doesn't make 350whp So that's why I can see some shops adding the 15% to match it to dynojet standards. Then again some shops get alittle happy with the correct factors and fuck it up for trusting the corrections....
thats why you put cf that was tested....I will hopefull be able to go to dynojet this sat.... and see how close cf was...

thats why you put cf that was tested....I will hopefull be able to go to dynojet this sat.... and see how close cf was...

Save your self some grief and get the corrected and uncorrected numbers from that one too. You don't want anyone else hating on you.

Save your self some grief and get the corrected and uncorrected numbers from that one too. You don't want anyone else hating on you.

He's getting those numbers to see how close the corrected numbers are to a good dyno. The big problem here is that DG's dyno reads really low so they add a large correction factor to make it seem closer to the dynojet. Once we get the dynojet numbers we can do the math and see how close DG was to getting the right correction factor.

Essentially, DG claims there is a 15% difference between their uncorrected dyno numbers and the other dyno's numbers. Or something to that effect. It's all kind of confusing.

He's getting those numbers to see how close the corrected numbers are to a good dyno. The big problem here is that DG's dyno reads really low so they add a large correction factor to make it seem closer to the dynojet. Once we get the dynojet numbers we can do the math and see how close DG was to getting the right correction factor.

Essentially, DG claims there is a 15% difference between their uncorrected dyno numbers and the other dyno's numbers. Or something to that effect. It's all kind of confusing.

Well he knows the Drill. On me and his Mazda forum you show up with dyno numbers and no correction factors be it mustang/DD/Jet we eat you up. He should have known better when it comes to the internet you got to post as much valid info as possible for people to accept certain things.

DG had problems in the past because of claiming a certain hp record on the stock motor i think, and it was on a 1.2 correction factor which was high and they got blasted for it.
They havent had many issues since then that i can think of and they do seem like a good shop, why they dont have vendor status is for kooldino and his crew to decide, honestly a 1.15c/f is not a high c/f for comparing to a dynojet. I believe they tested and got a 1.17 as the actual difference on a few cars.