: To Nos or not to Nos


Kwiq Niss
05-11-2008, 03:13 AM
That is the question


Post your thoughts and opinions on nitrous oxide here.

Kwiq Niss
05-11-2008, 03:21 AM
How far can you push it without additional mods, and what additional mods are necessary for higher levels.
I know for 200hp up you should really run race fuel, but I've heard about needing welds on intake and other dangers.

toytec
05-11-2008, 03:41 AM
For me,All throttle-no bottle as they say..

Unowned
05-11-2008, 03:44 AM
NOS is a waste, go biggee Turbo

ohheyitzjon
05-11-2008, 07:06 AM
how is nitrous a waste? its safe when used properly! i say go for it! 150hp
:thumbup:

Robevo
05-11-2008, 10:57 AM
NOS for underpowered low budget cars and drag racers.
example: civics

socalevox
05-11-2008, 02:44 PM
bigger turbo thats power all the time

lwevert
05-11-2008, 02:48 PM
spray and pray! I would be a little hesitant to spray NOS on a new $33K+ car. Put it's your car. On a civic or integra definitly yes

mikeHmikE
05-11-2008, 03:49 PM
^agreed

voodooman79
05-11-2008, 04:11 PM
spray and pray! I would be a little hesitant to spray NOS on a new $33K+ car. Put it's your car. On a civic or integra definitly yes

Why do this to a new car?!?!? Plus you can kiss your warranty goodbye. If you're gonna spray it, wait atleast till the warranty is gone.

MEVOX
05-11-2008, 05:05 PM
NOS for underpowered low budget cars and drag racers.
example: civics

Snap

MEVOX
05-11-2008, 05:06 PM
NOS for underpowered low budget cars and drag racers.
example: civics
:ohsnap:

Kwiq Niss
05-11-2008, 05:10 PM
forget the new aspect, and the warranty, just from a performance standpoint, I don't necessarily mean now, maybe later, but from a performance point what would you do.

Kwiq Niss
05-11-2008, 06:16 PM
So far all I've heard from the non-nitrous side is its not for me, or kindegarten cuts.
Can we hear a logical argument for no nitrous.
And even if you would go for larger turbo, better fuel system, and say you might even already be at 1100 awhp, why would you not still add Nitrous?
Why would you add a larger turbo in lieu of nitrous instead of in addition to?
I'm not hearing compelling arguments yet.

Nooka King
05-11-2008, 08:23 PM
some plp like nos some plp dont everyones option of what they like is different, i would use nos but then again ive never used it before just turbo, but i recently got a 08 si and what im doing at this moment is doing mods that will support future mods, air intake, headers, exaust, you know what i mean i will soon turbo but i will proly not use nos, even tho i plan on rebuilding my motor, but like i said nos is nice, who cares who likes it or not, YOU paid 33,000+ so its your car reserch and ask qeustions but in the end its your decision, but use 150 shot lol, but make sure when you do it do it right, im luckey enof to have jotech motor sports right next to me, and they specialize in turbos so, turbo for me, but good luck

Kwiq Niss
05-11-2008, 10:02 PM
I'm debating whether to use it or not, I just wanted to hear both sides, and know what to look out for, but I've yet too hear a reason not to, other than NOS is for noobs, or babies, or I don't like it. Its not something I plan to do anytime soon, but am definitely considering way on down the road. I'll prolly go bigger turbo or something b4 I even consider actually putting NOS on, but I've heard things that have made me second guess both. I was gonna ask about NOS now, and maybe post another poll after some turbo kits came out for the X regarding bigger turbo, fuel systems etc.
But I wanted to post this to see what people thought, and what I should do if I do want to add NOS.
If I do add nitrous I will prolly go with NOS, then hide the bottles and lines, have hidden switches to open the bottles, and have the purge and activation buttons on fake paddle shifters. I thought 150 would be pretty safe if I opened the exhaust, intake, and intercooler first, but this is my first tuner, so if someone knows better, I'd like to hear it, but "bottles are for babies" and similar comments are people coming in here that have nothing useful to post, and just want to be offensive, so I ask again if anyone has any valid feedback on nitrous systems?

joey
05-13-2008, 02:45 PM
who cares man. i dont think that there is a good reason not to use it if you do everything right. if my X was set up for it id probably do it. As of right now, just bolt-ons and seeing what happens

mitsugst4eva
05-13-2008, 11:01 PM
But you gotta love the "bottles are for babies" line! :hititsign:But seriously...even those Nos is not for me, there are benefits for sure.

If I were to do Nos, why not do it to you intercooler?! Instead of spraying your motor, you could spray your intercooler and drop the intake charge/temp down a bit. Could yeild up to 50hp. That is a safe and cool way (no pun intended) to do it. Now THAT I would happily do.

Otherwise, nos could help spool a HUGE Turbo up. 150 shot for a built motor maybe healthy. Stock...hmmm...50 shot and I wouldn't worry. Just some food for thought. :rock:

Katya4me
05-14-2008, 12:08 AM
To me, the only purpose of having NOS is for drag-racing and in your case it sounds like possibly illegal street racing. NOS is illegal for autox, which I participate in as well as rally-x and track, so those are my reasons for voting no to NOS.

Kwiq Niss
05-14-2008, 12:15 AM
To me, the only purpose of having NOS is for drag-racing and in your case it sounds like possibly illegal street racing. NOS is illegal for autox, which I participate in as well as rally-x and track, so those are my reasons for voting no to NOS.
illegal street racing? come on guy, I live 10 minutes from Race City USA. There's an 1/8th 10 miles from here and a 1/4 opening in September 15 Miles from here. There's also Lowes Motor Speedway, and surely some road courses near here.

X-MAN
05-14-2008, 12:15 AM
Go for the nos!
Let us know what happens to ur tranny within a few months.

Katya4me
05-14-2008, 02:21 PM
illegal street racing? come on guy, I live 10 minutes from Race City USA. There's an 1/8th 10 miles from here and a 1/4 opening in September 15 Miles from here. There's also Lowes Motor Speedway, and surely some road courses near here.
I was referring to this when I said that:

If I do add nitrous I will prolly go with NOS, then hide the bottles and lines, have hidden switches to open the bottles, and have the purge and activation buttons on fake paddle shifters.
Is NOS allowed at Lowes Motor Speedway?

DaemonSadi
05-14-2008, 02:31 PM
Basically if you plan to drag I say why not.... but this isn't really a drag car. If you plan to do anything else it's kind of useless.

Kwiq Niss
05-14-2008, 10:08 PM
I was referring to this when I said that:

Is NOS allowed at Lowes Motor Speedway?
Car will be used on street, I don't want to get busted for illegal mods, and a clean install is always something to shoot for.
I plan on eventually racing my car anywhere that is legal, whether that be drag, circle, or road course, this car has something for each. If I do any setup stuff it will be for road course, but I might still hit the drag.

TRUSTcompany9000
05-14-2008, 11:30 PM
I just love being able to take down all the muscle cars at the drag strip :rock:

mitsugst4eva
05-15-2008, 12:55 AM
I just love being able to take down all the muscle cars at the drag strip :rock:
:+1:Hey...is that a 4 banger??? :bowlol:

Kooldino
05-15-2008, 01:04 AM
bigger turbo thats power all the time

Except for the time it takes to spool that big turbo.

In which case NOS would be nice until the turbo spooled.

Wraith
05-15-2008, 03:27 AM
I'm a big fan of NOS :)

I've used it in numerous cars I've had in the past, both street and track - best one was a 9sec 1/4 mile Torana Xu1 (Australian vehicle) I built up with a small block chev.

Although I've never used it in a forced inducted car/engine before, all the above were N/A V8's.

Just like with everything else, if it's set up correctly, it'll work correctly, no question.

It's used on many a forced inducted car, as Kooldino stated, alot of racers use it to 'make up' for the low end lag of big turbo set ups.

Like with anything else, it has its pros and cons, one big pro that alot of people don't realise is it's natural ability to cool the intake charge temp right down...and it's biggest asset is it's cost, both for hardware/installation and running expense - it excels and is more cost effective than any other means of gaining additional big power gains...

Alot of people will stress the point of wear...this truly dosn't make sense, because the additional wear will only occur when you use the NOS - if you build the engine to produce the same output with a larger turbo, it will wear faster, because that power will be there all the time !!!

I've found that people will go with what 'they like' rather than trying to make logical sense and true comparisons of all available methods of power enhncements which are available and adopt whichever is best for them...

You'll have your 'pro turbo' crowd, you'll have your 'pro supercharger' crowd and then you'll get your 'pro chemical' or NOS charger crowd - usually the N/A people...

I suppose it's one of those topics that can be discussed for a long time, at the end of the day, each to his own, if it's what you really want, you've had past experience with it and it's worked for you, then why not :)

Don't know if I'd do it on an Evo 10, but it certainly is an attractive idea to me to have say a properly set up 100hp kit and use it only when required and the rest of the time, the cars behaviour, fuel usage, wear n tear etc. is same as stock :)

rockn82
06-02-2008, 01:29 AM
For me,All throttle-no bottle as they say..

^ Thats my line.

OH and NOS IS NOT NITROUS! ITS A NAMEBRAND (YES IM YELLING HERE) ...... Stupid Fast and the fictitious.

Narnicles! 7 Speed. Oh and don't forget his dad was killed in the second turn of a 1/4 mile race. (a plane must have fell on him during ticket pickup)

Edit: Sorry was starting to rant.... nitrous does add lots of power for very little cost, but add in the engine rebuilds over time and its worth doing right the first time. It is getting better though as engines are able to take more and more abuse because of the tighter tollerances and better mapping.

the boat
06-03-2008, 11:44 PM
NOS is a waste, go biggee Turbo



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the boat
06-03-2008, 11:44 PM
[quote=ohheyitzjon;54010]how is nitrous a waste? its safe when used properly! i say go for it! 150hp
/quote]


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