: Free 5speed shifting fix!


livnpaintball2
03-11-2011, 02:51 PM
This helped on mine and might on yours. My shifting was extremely rough. After installing the short shifter and bushings I notice one of the shifting cable brackets under the hood was slotted. In the stock position the bracket was all the way outboard. I moved it all the way inboard and it improved the gear engagement.:godance:

jyamona
03-11-2011, 02:58 PM
It might be because I opened the pdf on my phone, but that pic is very blurry. You have a clearer one?

livnpaintball2
03-11-2011, 03:01 PM
its your phone.

Golden
03-11-2011, 03:48 PM
So which way are you moving it? Left or right?

Clipse3GT
03-11-2011, 03:50 PM
So which way are you moving it? Left or right?

This...

Golden
03-11-2011, 03:51 PM
BTW: here is a picture of the holes on this thing. I think mine needs adjusting, because 1st and 2nd seem like I really have to pull the lever to the left to get them in gear.

http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/EvoX_2010/Shifter%20Bushings/TWM/CIMG0085-1.jpg

Clipse3GT
03-11-2011, 04:07 PM
So which way are we sliding this?

Towards the firewall?

I am sure if you need a bit more adjustment you can elongate the holes.

SiliconTek
03-11-2011, 04:26 PM
:+1:

Golden
03-11-2011, 08:43 PM
Ok, so I just adjusted mine. It basically slides left to right. (It sits at a slight angle.) When under the hood, if you move it left / toward the passenger side, it moves your whole shift pattern to the passenger side.

For example, I moved mine all the way left / passenger side. In the driver's seat, my shift pattern (H pattern) moved toward the passenger side of the car. I needed this movement because I was having a hard time putting it in 1st gear due to hitting the limits of how far the shifter will move to the left. I probably didn't need to adjust the shifter to the far extreme like I did, but I do like how it feels now.

In summary, the direction you move this is the same direction your "H" pattern will move in the car.

lallen3
03-11-2011, 09:10 PM
Interesting. I've always had a little trouble with 5th. Seemed like I really had to push the shifter to the right to get into the gate to enter 5th gear. I wonder if this will help mine out.

Golden
03-11-2011, 09:15 PM
Interesting. I've always had a little trouble with 5th. Seemed like I really had to push the shifter to the right to get into the gate to enter 5th gear. I wonder if this will help mine out.

I could. Move the thing to the right a little.

laksman91
03-11-2011, 09:18 PM
I guess a better write up is neccessary?

Golden any noticible difference?

Golden
03-11-2011, 09:22 PM
Yes. As I said in my other post, my car was a tad hard to get into 1st gear before. It drove me nuts. This has 100% fixed my issue. In hindsight, the problem was that I was hitting the limits of the shifter when I moved it to the left. Now, because I adjusted the shift linkage to the right, I now have more room to move my shifter, and I can select 1st gear much better. 2nd is improved too.

Golden
03-11-2011, 09:23 PM
I should also add that my issues started after I last had this apart when I was installing underhood shifter bushings. I guess I didn't pay attention to how it came off or how I put it back on. I really had no idea that the holes allowed for adjustment. I did not have this problem before I took it apart.

mrxgeean
03-11-2011, 10:56 PM
I think I have the same issue. But I don't get how I can adjust it. :wtfsign:

linste
03-12-2011, 12:22 AM
me too 1st is tough. when we say right what we facing the car from the front?

Golden
03-12-2011, 01:39 AM
By right, I meant while under the hood, or you could say driver's side. I guess I should have said that first.

Move it "Driver's Side" to fix 5th gear.

Move it "Passenger's Side" to fix 1st gear. (this is what I did).


This is the piece that gets moved left or right:
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/EvoX_2010/Shifter%20Bushings/TWM/CIMG0084-1.jpg

Here is a picture of it in the car. You can even see the 2 bolts that you have to loosen.
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/EvoX_2010/Shifter%20Bushings/TWM/CIMG0098-1.jpg

Here is another shot of it in the car. You can just see the 2 bolts needed to be loosened.
http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/EvoX_2010/Shifter%20Bushings/CIMG0033.jpg

livnpaintball2
03-12-2011, 02:07 AM
Glad this has helped out some of you guys, I looked in the manual and there is nothing in there stating any kind of adjustment to this bracket. I guess mitsu thought no one would ever remove it.:rolleyes:

lallen3
03-12-2011, 01:18 PM
Thanks, livinpaintball & Golden for the great work. Good to know this is adjustable! Now I just gotta get the car back in 1 piece, lol.

livnpaintball2
03-12-2011, 03:47 PM
My car's shifting was crap from day one, when you put it in first gear it was like you half way push in the clutch and then jam it into gear. Really notchy and ground a lot but now its soooo much better. I still need to change the fluid, I bought the mt85 redline, just need to do it.

livnpaintball2
04-28-2011, 03:29 AM
TTT

Stark Industries
04-28-2011, 03:51 AM
I have the redline mt-85 on standby too but honestly, I just installed the AMS gate selector bushing and now it just glides into gear. 2-3 is efortless and almost automatic. It could be from the weighted shift knob as well but really, that bushing made all the difference in the world!

iceman1680
05-09-2011, 11:39 PM
I'm having a slight issue moving the shifter towards the 1st/2nd gear side and I don't think it's from this. I installed the TWM cable and transmission bushings a few months ago and actually never noticed that the bracket is adjustable. Since the install, it feels like pushing the shifter from neutral towards the right feels smooth but going from neutral towards the left feels choppy. The cable closer to the firewall is moving away from the firewall which makes the cable further from the firewall move down toward the ground when moving the shifter towards the left. Does anybody know how to alleviate this unsmoothness? Is something too tight? Not greased enough? Could this bracket adjustment actually be the issue?

lallen3
05-10-2011, 01:07 AM
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livnpaintball2
05-10-2011, 11:44 AM
Did you grease the tranny bushings?

lallen3
05-10-2011, 01:21 PM
Did you grease the tranny bushings?

Sounds dirty........ :dancebanana:

livnpaintball2
05-11-2011, 03:11 AM
at least spit on it....

iceman1680
05-11-2011, 04:41 PM
Did you grease the tranny bushings?

I did. I read some of the posts from other members before the install so I greased pretty much everything.

lallen3
05-24-2011, 03:27 PM
Made this adjustment today. Huge difference.

MonsterParadise
05-24-2011, 04:16 PM
I have problem to get in 1st gear and Reverse, so do I need to move it to left or right?

Golden
05-24-2011, 06:57 PM
Left / Passenger side.

K1nslayer
05-25-2011, 08:44 AM
Glad this has helped out some of you guys, I looked in the manual and there is nothing in there stating any kind of adjustment to this bracket. I guess mitsu thought no one would ever remove it.:rolleyes:

This is incorrect, but it was hard to find. I pulled this pic from the manual months ago, but forgot to post it. There are actually two possible adjustment locations for the shifter linkage.
Note: the inches distance for the select lever bracket is listed wrong (in the picture only), it is not the correct conversion from mm.


-K1nlsayer

lallen3
05-25-2011, 01:18 PM
This is incorrect, but it was hard to find. I pulled this pic from the manual months ago, but forgot to post it. There are actually two possible adjustment locations for the shifter linkage.
Note: the inches distance for the select lever bracket is listed wrong (in the picture only), it is not the correct conversion from mm.


-K1nlsayer

Someone should move this to the first page. And sticky.

nystc23
05-25-2011, 02:10 PM
Wow, how did I never see this thread before?

I have noticed recently that my "notchy" shifting from 1st to 2nd has been getting worse. I have to shift completely to neutral (middle), then slide the shifter back out and down to 2nd to avoid the "grinding".

Based on what I've read through on here, it seems like I could loosen these 2 bolts and nudge the bracket over towards the driver side & solve the problem?

lallen3
05-25-2011, 02:11 PM
Wow, how did I never see this thread before?

I have noticed recently that my "notchy" shifting from 1st to 2nd has been getting worse. I have to shift completely to neutral (middle), then slide the shifter back out and down to 2nd to avoid the "grinding".

Based on what I've read through on here, it seems like I could loosen these 2 bolts and nudge the bracket over towards the driver side & solve the problem?

I think it's more about difficulty entering the shift gate. For example, I had to push the shifter hard to the right to enter fifth gear. It was a pain. After the adjustment it's easy. I don't know if it improves the notchiness, but my guess would be no.

Sequence
05-25-2011, 02:15 PM
Wow, how did I never see this thread before?

I have noticed recently that my "notchy" shifting from 1st to 2nd has been getting worse. I have to shift completely to neutral (middle), then slide the shifter back out and down to 2nd to avoid the "grinding".

Based on what I've read through on here, it seems like I could loosen these 2 bolts and nudge the bracket over towards the driver side & solve the problem?

if you want 1-2 better then you move it towards passenger

if you want 5th better you move it towards driver

BoostFrenzy
07-01-2011, 01:06 AM
I have problem to get in 1st gear and Reverse, so do I need to move it to left or right?

Same issue here. I'm going to do this while I'm in there to do my bushings.

And yes, it is to the "left" (passenger side) to fix this since there is no reverse gear in this car.

hyper
07-01-2011, 02:42 PM
I didn't try this fix yet, but I was thinking about it. For the people that did it and moved it to the left (passenger side) did you guys move it all the way?

BoostFrenzy
07-08-2011, 11:54 PM
Just to update this. I just finished adjusting mine and I had the 1-2 & Reverse problem. I moved mine all the way to the right (drivers side) for testing purposes and it actually made them both feel and work better :wtfsign:

The new thing is that now it feels like kind of a long throw to get 5th but it's not a "problem" so to speak.

MarcusDubya77
07-09-2011, 01:00 AM
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Evo_Zero
07-09-2011, 07:32 AM
if you want 1-2 better then you move it towards passenger

if you want 5th better you move it towards driver

Thanks Im going to have to try this, can this be done with stock gate bushings or should I switch those out with AMS first? Also does anyone know if this would stop the grinding from 1st to 2nd?

BoostFrenzy
07-11-2011, 03:14 PM
Thanks Im going to have to try this, can this be done with stock gate bushings or should I switch those out with AMS first? Also does anyone know if this would stop the grinding from 1st to 2nd?

It can be done with the stock bushings. But if you're in there, might as well you know? Plus if you plan on getting the 5-speed gate selector bushing from AMS, it requires the removal of the adjustable bracket anyway. So if you did the gate selector down the road you'd have to reset the adjustment bracket to where you had it.

"Two birds, one stone" I say.

rickieroo
07-15-2011, 06:46 AM
cool, just did this all the way to the left/passenger and it definately feels softer and not as notchy on 1st and 2nd. :D

Evo_Zero
07-16-2011, 07:31 AM
It can be done with the stock bushings. But if you're in there, might as well you know? Plus if you plan on getting the 5-speed gate selector bushing from AMS, it requires the removal of the adjustable bracket anyway. So if you did the gate selector down the road you'd have to reset the adjustment bracket to where you had it.

"Two birds, one stone" I say.

Thanks!


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hyper
07-16-2011, 05:43 PM
Just done this, I have stock bushing, I didn't get the AMS one. I moved it all the way to the left and it helps A LOT. No more difficulty going into first and going from first to second.

dylphill85
07-16-2011, 06:07 PM
Subd for later.

MarcusDubya77
08-26-2011, 10:04 PM
Retarded question, but are you all removing the air intake to get to this? It looks a little deep in there, and the only other way I can see doing it is with some long extensions..Any help would be slick and appreciated!

Frankiago
08-26-2011, 10:21 PM
Stock airbox? DEFINITELY.

I did the install of the bushings, but not the gate selector. I wonder if the person who installed the gate selector secured it back in a place that was better off for my shifting since I noticed the difficulty getting into second vanished after the gate selector...

I still have first/reverse issues, but this is kinda like the "ah ha!" in regards to why my second gear woes vanished.

Used to hate making left turns at a stop light because half way through the turn there's me flingin the shifter all around trying to get into second.

MarcusDubya77
08-26-2011, 10:32 PM
ooops my bad..air box..guess I got a weekend project..

Frankiago
08-26-2011, 10:35 PM
ooops my bad..air box..guess I got a weekend project..No sir. 10 minutes to GET to it, half hour of orienting yourself with what you're looking at, 2 minutes to do it, 10 minutes to put it all back together.

Please drink a beer or two during that half hour period.

SiliconTek
08-26-2011, 10:38 PM
I still have first/reverse issues, but this is kinda like the "ah ha!" in regards to why my second gear woes vanished.

Used to hate making left turns at a stop light because half way through the turn there's me flingin the shifter all around trying to get into second.

Funny part is, I wonder if this is another one of those, "It really doesn't help but you fixed it when you reinstalled." items. :shades:

Frankiago
08-26-2011, 10:45 PM
Funny part is, I wonder if this is another one of those, "It really doesn't help but you fixed it when you reinstalled." items. :shades:Well sorta yes and sorta no. While I don't know if I can contribute the fix to the part itself, the part itself did change the shifting however slight.

There's no arguing the difference in materials between all these bushings and stock, it's GOING to do something.

Did changing the material of a bushing fix that second gear thing? You're probably right, reinstalling probably did.

SiliconTek
08-26-2011, 11:04 PM
Well sorta yes and sorta no. While I don't know if I can contribute the fix to the part itself, the part itself did change the shifting however slight.

There's no arguing the difference in materials between all these bushings and stock, it's GOING to do something.

Did changing the material of a bushing fix that second gear thing? You're probably right, reinstalling probably did.

I have changed everything but this, yet I don't see a reason to either.

BoostFrenzy
10-15-2011, 09:19 AM
Has anyone tried messing around with the other adjustment point yet? Would be interesting to see how that one affects feel and throw.

churbo
10-15-2011, 04:11 PM
Old thread but I'll bump it anyway.

I just did this, surprised I have never seen this. Used to have the hard time getting it into first at times and shifting to second was always the thing I hated the most about driving the car. Third never was a problem and if my car shifted like it did into 4th with all my gears I'd be a very happy customer. Fifth was sometimes notchy but never really noticeable.

Moved mine as far to the passenger side as it would go. It wasn't much, but did feel it move. Going into first has improved somewhat but not a night and day difference. First to second is must better. Still a little bit notchy but compared to what it used to be I'm very happy. Third has gotten a little notchy but nothing I can't live with as well as 4th. They almost feel the same but nothing that bad. 5th is about the same.

Mods for shifting include, Works SS, Works base bushings, and AMSOIL in the trans. I'm sure if I did a few of the others it'd improve even more but I'm happy with how she is now