: SST mode boost and long knobs


FLK
06-01-2008, 06:55 PM
Didn't see this one posted:

According to themotorreport (http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4259/ss-t-the-magic-inside-the-evo-x/), the SST really is the Getrag 6DCT470, weighing in at 220 lbs.

"When each of the modes were tested, each yielded a different boost peak. Not only do the revs sit higher the further up the mode you go and the shifting become quicker, if not violent in the “super Sports” mode, but the ECU once again communicates to the SS-T and vice versa, so in “Normal” mode the boost peak was 1.3 bar (19 psi), “Sports” peaked at 1.5 bar (22 psi) and “Super Sports” peaked at a surprising 1.8 bar (26 psi) which for a standard car really is amazing."

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk13/xy1904/Forums/a94b5197.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk13/xy1904/Forums/e48f1ab1.jpg

ak47m203
06-01-2008, 07:29 PM
i hope they will test 2 or more different car and see similar result.

Jackygor
06-01-2008, 07:37 PM
thats cool...then how does MBC work on SST? Does that mean it is running 3 different maps?

This is the SST model for those who are curious

http://getrag.de/media/0000000366.jpg

Max. Torque Capacity is 470 Nm which equals to 346.6541969 lbf*ft

desperado callado
06-01-2008, 09:46 PM
thats cool...then how does MBC work on SST? Does that mean it is running 3 different maps?

This is the SST model for those who are curious

http://getrag.de/media/0000000366.jpg

Max. Torque Capacity is 470 Nm which equals to 346.6541969 lbf*ft

That one is of the 6DCT470 from the Getrag site and it looks different than the one at the mitsu site, which is also the one shown in the article. I have to wonder who the article's source is confirming that they are actually the same.

FLK
06-01-2008, 09:53 PM
^It's the same. The mitsu pic and the getrag pic are just at different angles.

desperado callado
06-01-2008, 10:09 PM
^It's the same. The mitsu pic and the getrag pic are just at different angles.

Sure, different angles and different external features as far as I can tell.

Kooldino
06-02-2008, 01:22 PM
346 lb/ft, eh? That explains the FQ-360.

gunzo
06-02-2008, 01:45 PM
drop getrag an email .. they'll be able to verify that it's not the std dct470 .. similar but specced to mitsubishi's requirement .. which is TADA !!! secret ......:wtfsign: rediculous

Anyway .. lose the long shifter .. GUARANTEED you'll have problems changing from P to R or D :godance: :slaphead: :harhar:

Jackygor
06-02-2008, 05:12 PM
drop getrag an email .. they'll be able to verify that it's not the std dct470 .. similar but specced to mitsubishi's requirement .. which is TADA !!! secret ......:wtfsign: rediculous

Anyway .. lose the long shifter .. GUARANTEED you'll have problems changing from P to R or D :godance: :slaphead: :harhar:

Added: Oh yes .. it's 1.6-1.7bar spike regardless if you're in Norm, Sport or S-SPORT ..

I don't get it?! So did Getrag reply yet?

DaemonSadi
06-02-2008, 05:13 PM
If it were running 26psi... why is it slower than the GSR? o.O

voodooman79
06-02-2008, 06:18 PM
If this is true, this could explain why there isn't a single consistent review on the MR other than its Tranny. I would like to see some figures on the car in each mode "0-60, 1/4 mile, etc."

Jackygor
06-02-2008, 06:42 PM
If it were running 26psi... why is it slower than the GSR? o.O

Perhaps making up for lost speed in the top end because the SST limits the torque out put?

FLK
06-02-2008, 07:10 PM
If this is true, this could explain why there isn't a single consistent review on the MR other than its Tranny. I would like to see some figures on the car in each mode "0-60, 1/4 mile, etc."

If you weren't aware of the BM videos in Dec. 07 here are some SST quarter #'s with different modes:

X-SST (Normal) 14.193
X-SST (Sport) 14.110
X-SST (S-Sport, launch mode) 13.712
X-SST (S-Sport, secret launch) 13.650

DaemonSadi
06-02-2008, 08:08 PM
Perhaps making up for lost speed in the top end because the SST limits the torque out put?

But 26psi is a quite a big kick compared to 21psi.

Papi4baby
07-20-2008, 08:18 PM
http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=313872

That's all i found before i got bored.

DirectorSe7en
07-20-2008, 09:16 PM
Good info.

evrenaker
08-05-2008, 06:24 AM
On each and every mode (N, SS, SST) it keeps changing the turbo boost. And ideas what is that boost level on the Manual T.? (I think it should be the highest?)

And I'm still in a position to decide either 5MT or SST ?

Still concerned that on a stage2, 3 mods, it won't be able to handle to power output?

your thoughts are welcome...

gunzo
08-05-2008, 08:32 AM
On each and every mode (N, SS, SST) it keeps changing the turbo boost. And ideas what is that boost level on the Manual T.? (I think it should be the highest?)

And I'm still in a position to decide either 5MT or SST ?

Still concerned that on a stage2, 3 mods, it won't be able to handle to power output?

your thoughts are welcome...

Just reconfirmed ..

SST NORM - 1.79bar spike taper to 1.1 bar 7000rpms
SST SPORT - 1.75bar spike taper to 1.1bar 7000rpms
SST S-SPORT - sorry I'm a chicken sue me

Boost doesn't change in all modes

evrenaker
08-05-2008, 04:37 PM
this article says it does?

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4259/ss-t-the-magic-inside-the-evo-x

any ideas?

When each of these modes were tested, each yielded a different boost peak. Not only do the revs sit higher the further up the mode you go and the shifting become quicker, if not violent in the “super Sports” mode, but the ECU once again communicates to the SS-T and vice versa, so in “Normal” mode the boost peak was 1.3 bar, “Sports” peaked at 1.5 bar and “Super Sports” peaked at a surprising 1.8 bar which for a standard car really is amazing.

gunzo
08-05-2008, 11:07 PM
this article says it does?

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/4259/ss-t-the-magic-inside-the-evo-x

any ideas?

When each of these modes were tested, each yielded a different boost peak. Not only do the revs sit higher the further up the mode you go and the shifting become quicker, if not violent in the “super Sports” mode, but the ECU once again communicates to the SS-T and vice versa, so in “Normal” mode the boost peak was 1.3 bar, “Sports” peaked at 1.5 bar and “Super Sports” peaked at a surprising 1.8 bar which for a standard car really is amazing.

No idea .. that's a "report" .. most of the guys here "DRIVE" their SSTs now .. it's no longer a myth or report .. it's experience .. and my experience with the car says no such thing .. it gave the almost same peak boost and same boost at 7000rpms ..

evrenaker
08-06-2008, 08:25 AM
I guess, I'll go for the 5MT version, due to tuning matters. SST can only handle around 450Nm Max torque, where you can easily pass this with 1-2 upgrades.

Thanks,

gunzo
08-07-2008, 05:42 AM
I guess, I'll go for the 5MT version, due to tuning matters. SST can only handle around 450Nm Max torque, where you can easily pass this with 1-2 upgrades.

Thanks,

Cool ..either one is a good choice (call me biased :thumbup:)

Only gripe I have with the manual is the high cruising rpms .. otherwise both are just the same..

verkion
08-07-2008, 06:42 AM
Where is everyone getting max torque numbers for the SST? No one has formally released any info to my knowledge yet. Someone have an article/specs? Apparantly even Getrag admits its not their "standard outta the box" twin clutch tranny...

verkion

voodooman79
08-07-2008, 07:11 AM
I guess, I'll go for the 5MT version, due to tuning matters. SST can only handle around 450Nm Max torque, where you can easily pass this with 1-2 upgrades.

Thanks,

It's 470Nm not 450.... get it right! :p
Getrag has two models of the sst on their site, make sure you're looking at the right one.

sinktheboat
08-08-2008, 01:01 AM
there will be at least 50% saftey factor on the 470Nm if not more. Has anyone broken a SST yet!