: Ladder theory


Kooldino
10-09-2007, 08:24 PM
What do ya'll think of this? I think it's reasonably accurate. It falls in line with my thoughts and observations over the years:

http://www.laddertheory.com/

Mr. Win
10-09-2007, 11:00 PM
I felt like I was reading a crappy Saturday evening informerical on how to not be the "just friends guy."

It pretty much a Generalization/Rationalization heavily geared towards men with an explanation somewhat geared for women discussing why guys are *******s/inconsiderate with this subject.

I have a large group of women I am friends with and I have no desire to "fuck" them... which the article disagrees with.

Honestly I could argue that masturbation is the reason men can't be friends with women. Its another vice that people feel like they MUST have and can be directly linked to sex. If you can not masturbate for long periods of time then chances are you could be friends with women.

Sex is like any other addiction (cigarettes, drugs, alcohol, television)... people need them to fill some kind of need. It just happens to be popular, so people overlook it.

Kooldino
10-09-2007, 11:28 PM
I felt like I was reading a crappy Saturday evening informerical on how to not be the "just friends guy."

It pretty much a Generalization/Rationalization heavily geared towards men with an explanation somewhat geared for women discussing why guys are *******s/inconsiderate with this subject.

I have a large group of women I am friends with and I have no desire to "fuck" them... which the article disagrees with.

Not if you read the entire article.

It goes on to say that if you have a female friend that you don't want to fuck, chances are either....

a) you're gay
or
b) you're just not attracted to the girl
or
c) you already have a significantly hotter girl

SATimko
10-09-2007, 11:59 PM
I'll go along with it. I've found myself doing the very same thing frequently. I didn't see the theory of being "friends with an attractive girl to fuck her, and her friend who is also attractive." Did I over look it? I'm definitely guilty of that.

Mr. Win
10-10-2007, 12:04 AM
The manner in which its written does not display itself as fact or even as a solid theory.

Let's take these three options:

A) So this theory must use the theory that your born gay. If it doesn't - then only I am the judge of this preference which voids the entire theory hypothesis.

B) Why can you not acknowledge beauty without wanting to fuck it? This is close-minded and you limit yourself to a social definition of beauty. Of course you could argue the definition of attraction but then this void Option C.

For example - I won't fuck a moron or anyone that lacks common sense. She may be significantly "hotter" than my my girl but certainly not worth my time or being fucked.

C) If you have no girl but your acknowledge her beauty and still don't want to fuck her then you default to A.

Staying inside this theory limits the amount of people you will meet. It limits your ability to find a women and in my opinion increase the likely hood that you will be unhappy with whatever your commit to (or are unable to commit too).

miaturbo
10-11-2007, 08:42 PM
there is lots of truth there...

Mr. Win
10-11-2007, 09:08 PM
I think its the reason people are so fucked up about relationships and sex. The lie to themselves to get ass all the time. Just like...

Smokers need cigarettes
Alchy's need booze
Pot heads need pot
Our culture needs sex

You let yourself NEED something and the urge controls you. Thus you do stupid shit.

Rosshole
10-11-2007, 09:40 PM
I do stupid shit anyways...

Kooldino
10-11-2007, 10:05 PM
I think its the reason people are so fucked up about relationships and sex. The lie to themselves to get ass all the time. Just like...

Smokers need cigarettes
Alchy's need booze
Pot heads need pot
Our culture needs sex

You let yourself NEED something and the urge controls you. Thus you do stupid shit.

Eh, a lot of us don't have to do stupid shit to get sekz.

miaturbo
10-12-2007, 01:32 PM
I think its the reason people are so fucked up about relationships and sex. The lie to themselves to get ass all the time. Just like...

Smokers need cigarettes
Alchy's need booze
Pot heads need pot
Our culture needs sex

You let yourself NEED something and the urge controls you. Thus you do stupid shit.
Not me. I need a relationship, and sex is part of it. I don't want just the sex...

SATimko
10-12-2007, 01:36 PM
Eh, a lot of us don't have to do stupid shit to get sekz.

Yeah, I just have to wear a nerdy t-shirt and play a hot pink bass...

Mr. Win
10-12-2007, 05:13 PM
Not me. I need a relationship, and sex is part of it. I don't want just the sex...

I think most of America has this perception, part of my theory to why most relationships fail.

miaturbo
10-12-2007, 05:18 PM
so you're saying a relationship based on sex has a higher success rate?

SATimko
10-12-2007, 05:18 PM
I've gone into each relationship looking for someone that I could have an intelligent conversation with, have a bit in common and etc. Sex has never been my motive, no matter how much i'll joke about it.

I think Americans in general are always looking for the quick fix, rather than a long term solution. The quick fix here being a piece of ass.