: First Mod should be...?


Zanx
08-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Having only driven 200 miles on the car, I was contemplating what should be the first mod to be installed on my Evo once it breaks in at 600+ miles. To be honest I am somewhat disappointed by the amount of power the car has produced thus far and I feel there is much more room for improvement.

So my question is, should I do the traditional upgrades such as intake/hot pipe (was thinking maybe buying the entire "Ingen Intake and UICP Set") first? or are there any other suggestions as being the first mod.

I would like to build this car for track, 1/4mile, and school/work purposes.

Any advice is appreciated.

Cheers,
Zan

joey
08-20-2008, 01:14 AM
exhaust intake hot pipe test pipe and tune

Zanx
08-20-2008, 01:15 AM
Any particular exhaust you suggest? Buschur?

DirectorSe7en
08-20-2008, 01:17 AM
NRG Tech Test Pipe
AMS Exhaust

Zanx
08-20-2008, 01:31 AM
Don't want to sound like a sissy but considering living in Florida (which adopted the same strict laws as California on emissions) has anyone gotten caught for violating emissions law with a test pipe?

would really hate for the car to be impounded.

joey
08-20-2008, 01:39 AM
when you get emmisions done put the cat on. i dont have emmisions so i guess ive never worried about it

Zanx
08-20-2008, 01:44 AM
Yeah, I figured that is what I will have to do. Guess I will just AMS it out with a test pipe and single exhaust first.
Thanks Guys

Robevo
08-20-2008, 02:36 AM
intake - exhaust - tune.
Track days.

on2it
08-20-2008, 03:43 AM
dont mod yet till youve run it in properly. but I agree with Robevo, intake, exhaust and tune.

Enjoitk
08-20-2008, 03:50 AM
the biggest difference in performance for a first mod would be with an exhaust. but your power disappointment can easily be solved with a tune. its a night and day difference. but you need to mod your car first before you tune it.

JNZTuning
08-20-2008, 05:00 AM
the biggest difference in performance for a first mod would be with an exhaust. but your power disappointment can easily be solved with a tune. its a night and day difference. but you need to mod your car first before you tune it.


Actually, from dyno testing, we've found that the overall biggest gainer is the intake. The exhaust does pick up some power, but not nearly as much as the bang-for-the-buck that the intake makes.

joey
08-20-2008, 05:02 AM
^^^^ agreed

Enjoitk
08-20-2008, 05:23 AM
Really? cause when i put my intake in i felt barely any difference, but when i got my tbe and put my stock intake back on to see which made more of a difference, it pulled like crazy

SpicyMchaggis
08-20-2008, 05:37 AM
Since when does Florida have emissions? I ran cat-less for a 2 couple years when I lived in Orlando.

is300
08-20-2008, 07:15 AM
EcuTek tune

mmjsport
08-20-2008, 08:19 AM
Actually, from dyno testing, we've found that the overall biggest gainer is the intake. The exhaust does pick up some power, but not nearly as much as the bang-for-the-buck that the intake makes.


What kind of intake did you guys get that made a big difference??

fatalwishes
08-20-2008, 12:43 PM
What kind of intake did you guys get that made a big difference??


:+1:

Robevo
08-20-2008, 12:57 PM
i dont know what they used , but my opinion is this.
If you will not get any exhaust then the example=AMS intake set up, is an overkill. You will not get the full benefit for it and you pay 3-4 times or even more to that intake.
But if you are planning to get an exhaust later, then i would go for the HKS drop on. $40 and below.
They say the Works is better , but cost at least twice as much, and you will throw it out anyway, when you get your intake with the exhaust later.

The big difference when you do only intake is not really the intake itself. It is the TUNE.
Sean tuned a BONE STOCK /not even drop in/ X and managed over 310 whp and 310 wtq /or something close/ on Dyno jet.
So the first biggest gain is the tune.

X-MAN
08-20-2008, 01:00 PM
Get a tune.. learn the car.. then mode it.

Zanx
08-20-2008, 03:01 PM
Yeah...I just spoke with my local tune shop...(If anyone located in Miami wants to know the shop just PM me)...and they have an Evo X they have been working on now for a long time, they make their own test pipe, and single exhaust..(claimed that it produced 25hp to the wheels from stock) and they also provide an EcuTek tune for $700...which they said generated 325hp on a dynojet (once all the mods were in)...so I will probably check the quality of their test pipe and exhaust and open my options from there, before I get at a tune.

Appreciate the help

DVDee
08-20-2008, 06:50 PM
Go for the tune, it'll really wake up the car. It will feel like what the Evo should've been from the factory.

joey
08-20-2008, 06:56 PM
are these ecutek tunes really that good? have most of you even had them done? mine will be done and put back on tomorrow so i guess i can wait and see for myself

Rguy
08-20-2008, 06:57 PM
You will see tomorrow. Totally different car. Just look at my dyno charts in the dyno forum.

joey
08-20-2008, 06:58 PM
so im guessing that you can feel a pretty good power gain then? what about the mpg

JNZTuning
08-20-2008, 11:11 PM
What kind of intake did you guys get that made a big difference??


This has been on our site for some time (look at the clothing--it was still cold outside).

We went to an independent dyno and tested it on the prototypes (not even the finalized version as brackets and tabs had to be added to a lot of stuff, and we ended up changing a few things for the better).

This was tested on a car with <250 miles on it, so it wasn't even broken in yet as well.

Tests were done on a Dynojet.

http://jnztuning.net/shop/catalog/ProjectX.php

Scroll down to Evo X Dyno Testing.

As you can see from the posting dates (not indicative of when it occured, but when it was added to the site) we picked up the car on February 21st, and had the parts built, tested, and the videos uploaded by March 2nd. :shades:

on2it
08-20-2008, 11:30 PM
Joey update us about your NEW car tommorrow mate!!

joey
08-20-2008, 11:33 PM
Joey update us about your NEW car tommorrow mate!!
You know it!! after all the good stuff ive heard about Ecutek i dont think that ill be dissappointed. :godance:

love9sick
08-22-2008, 07:01 PM
Actually, from dyno testing, we've found that the overall biggest gainer is the intake. The exhaust does pick up some power, but not nearly as much as the bang-for-the-buck that the intake makes.

Man, I switched back and forth and I swear my stock intake runs better! I think the problem is most of these tuners like even AMS for some reason add the intake with the MBC at the same time...I have no clue why. Some of us wanna know the gains of the intake and not intake+MBC.

love9sick
08-22-2008, 07:08 PM
Really? cause when i put my intake in i felt barely any difference, but when i got my tbe and put my stock intake back on to see which made more of a difference, it pulled like crazy

Did going back to the stock intake after the catback install make that much of a difference? I am thinking of trying this out. To me even in stock it seemed like the stock intake was kind of running better. Quicker spool and feel of torque.

2kvette
08-24-2008, 08:43 PM
Clear BRA!:rock:

on2it
09-30-2008, 07:58 AM
Having only driven 200 miles on the car, I was contemplating what should be the first mod to be installed on my Evo once it breaks in at 600+ miles. To be honest I am somewhat disappointed by the amount of power the car has produced thus far and I feel there is much more room for improvement.

So my question is, should I do the traditional upgrades such as intake/hot pipe (was thinking maybe buying the entire "Ingen Intake and UICP Set") first? or are there any other suggestions as being the first mod.

I would like to build this car for track, 1/4mile, and school/work purposes.

Any advice is appreciated.

Cheers,
Zan

so what was your first mod?

Seb@Specialty-X
09-30-2008, 02:40 PM
Did going back to the stock intake after the catback install make that much of a difference? I am thinking of trying this out. To me even in stock it seemed like the stock intake was kind of running better. Quicker spool and feel of torque.


Could be because alot of them are open air elements and they're just sucking up hot air from under the engine bay.

I hear good things about the AEM intake along with the release of Blitz's new intake. Both used the factory type style of separating the filter from the under hood heat soak.

Zanx
09-30-2008, 04:28 PM
I installed the Harman Motive Intake...There is a huge performance increase....I can hear the spoolage MUCH more and the Blow off. Planning to order the Harman Motive Turboback System...and see when I can install that..