Heres an email I got forn Vishnu last night. Guess the Procede is dead.

EVO X Tuning Now Available
We would like to thank everyone for their patience! The Evo X tuning process has been a long and challenging project to say the least! It began nearly one full year ago and it's been non-stop ever since. The good news is that we're done. The bad news is... well, there's no bad news! Not only have we met our initial tuning goals of making the Evo X faster and more responsive, we've also addressed issues that have bothered us from the very first day we brought home our car from the dealership.
In addition to offering a solid 380bhp and 380lb-ft in an otherwise stock vehicle, our Evo X tune also does the following:
1) Eliminates the annoying "dead spot" between 2500-3000RPM
2) Improves idle stability
3) Improves fuel economy during cruise conditions.
4) Reduces turbo spool-up by 800RPM.

The end result is a car that is not only substantially quicker in any test of speed, but one that is also far more drivable and tractable around town. In the end, we decided to offer this tune using ECU "reflash" technology instead of the PROcede add-on piggy-back computer that we worked with early in the development process. The reason for this was that only the reflash/reprogramming approach gave us the ability to remap both intake and exhaust MIVEC maps which were critical to the elimination of the low RPM "dead spot" and improved boost response. While we were able to make the same ultimate power using the PROcede, we were not able to fix these flaws that existed in the stock vehicle. While shipping your ECU to us for reflashing is less-than-convenient, we are confident that it will result in the best possible tune for your vehicle.

Also, check out 0-60 Magazine's recent review of our Evo X. This magazine test was done several months ago, right in the middle of our ECU reprogramming project. The tune was still a little rough around the edges back then (we were still refining the MIVEC mapping). But that didn't stop them from insisting that our car was "the EVO that Mitsu should have built." Now it's your turn to say that about your car :)
We look forward to hearing from you!

Best Regards,

Shiv S. Pathak
Owner
Vishnu Performance Systems

Got it too. Been asking them about it the past 4 months and every time they said it will be ready in 2 weeks. I have the ECUTEC flash on my car bec they were taking so long, but i thaught i might flash the ECU back to factory and do this chip. Guess that is out the window now. But, that is still 90hp/80lb-ft over stock with no other mods. And Vishnu does do good work. If you work on 18% DT loss it is around 320hp on the wheels. Good numbers! I can tell you it cost me a HELL OF A LOT MORE to get to 330 at the wheels.

I was kinda hoping a plug and play system would come out. Perrins Unichip and Procede I guess just couldnt control things as tightly as a ECU reflash. That only leaves the Z-Chip, but you have to install an MBC with it. That kinda defeats the purpose to me of flashing the car. I do give the companies credit for realizing that there is a better mode of tuning out there though, and going with it instead of pushing an inferior product.

Wow....I am really considering doing this....Do you have to have a stock car to attain this flash?

Do we know for sure if thats 380 FWHP or WHP??

Well Vishnu is a credible tuning entity, from what I have heard.

Im bet it is just an Eccutek Flash though. If thats the case the other companies have been using it for awhile and have the kinks worked out better. AMS, Perrin, Buschur, Ivey, or Speedcircuit are getting about the same gains. This says bhp not whp, so this is about the same as everyone else.

Still dont understand what peoples hangup is with MBC's. They are not new and used one on my suby. Its not like a major thing to put on a car especially if you are going to do a turbo upgrade in the future.

Still dont understand what peoples hangup is with MBC's. They are not new and used one on my suby. Its not like a major thing to put on a car especially if you are going to do a turbo upgrade in the future.
If a flash can take care of it why use an MBC is my thinking. Im not against MBCs just would prefer to have an all in one.

I love the MBC, car feels really nice from 1st gear all the way up. But I do understand what you are saying regarding a tune, but for those who don't have a tune yet, a MBC seems pretty worth it.

^I dont dissagree with that. Im just waiting on a tune though.

will the mitsu warranty be avoided if we intall this..

If you are worried about voiding the warranty I wouldnt do anything. If they feel like it, Im sure they could void the warranty for anything.

the MBC is confusing to me cause 1 swetting i am dead on 22 PSI boost then i go 1/16th of an inch farther in and i hit 27 PSI of boost

If you blow up your motor with this tune, it will not be covered. If you have a broken power window, it wouldn't have anything to do with the tune so it would be covered. You would be flagged by mitsu if the dealer ever found out which means closer scrutiny of your car each time you bring it in for something.

"If you are worried about voiding the warranty I wouldnt do anything. If they feel like it, Im sure they could void the warranty for anything." - dcasandman

agreed....Leave it stockers until warranty is up, or you could take a risk and hope they wont notice it.

lol mitsu wouldnt be like that! there too nice hahaha

ECUTEK ftw.

ECUTEK ftw.


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how much is the stock ecu,,maybe buy an extra one, and then the other one is the re flash form vishu. so if you want to go back instantly to stock put your extra stock one.

i think the stocker cost around 500 from mitsu but idk

I saw Works say it was around 900.

i dunno gotta ask mitsu about that one lol

that aint a bad idea...buy a stocker and send it to someone (for a tune) and keep the car running for the time it is out.

if it is cheeper then the tune i might do that lol

If you get an extra ECU, does that mean you have to program it specifically for your car like the FASTkey and immobilizer... or is there an easy way to copy your existing ECU?

If you get an extra ECU, does that mean you have to program it specifically for your car like the FASTkey and immobilizer... or is there an easy way to copy your existing ECU?


I have no idea, but I would like to know. I would love a spare. Reflashes would be awsome.

If you get an extra ECU, does that mean you have to program it specifically for your car like the FASTkey and immobilizer... or is there an easy way to copy your existing ECU?

Yes. You'd have to go to the dealership with the ECU and say "hey, make this work with my car".

I'm guessing they'd charge you for it too.

It's REALLY nice to have, but it's not exactly cheap between the cost of the hardware from Mitsu plus whatever they charge you to do it (hopefully no more than an hour's labor?)

I am all for it as long as its not over 1k.

I am all for it as long as its not over 1k.

I'm thinking they probably have a way seeing that you're switching ECU's with a datalogger. Something else tells me they would absolutely grill you over it.

I'm thinking they probably have a way seeing that you're switching ECU's with a datalogger. Something else tells me they would absolutely grill you over it.

i think that is not easy to see, it's not like the gtr with black box. dino has a post that it's not even that easy to spot a re-flash....

but to have a spare whenever you service you spare your self with warranty questions....

I'm thinking they probably have a way seeing that you're switching ECU's with a datalogger. Something else tells me they would absolutely grill you over it.


Thats OK with me. I don't care so much about the warranty. Its worthless anyway. I just want it so I can send one to get flashed anytime I want and not be without my car. I take call 1 in 3 days, and it would be a pain in the but to get a rental every time I want a new flash. This would be great.

hehe i said something smart!!! ^_^

i thought about getting another ecu and just sending both of them off, to clone the new one and tune it and keep the original if i need warranty work.


but arent there settings that update on the ecu as you drive it? like something with the timing chain clearance. so if you swapped ecus wouldnt these values get jacked up?

i have an aftermarket warranty anyways so maybe even with a tune the dealer might not hassle me, but i sort of don't want to take any chances.

the dealer charges 100 an hour and so it should be a $100 fee to make it work w/ the EVO x

Quick question, does it make sense for some of us who have a good amount of mods in place to do a mail in flash? If so, after the flash could we still add mods or will this affect the performance of the car, as it is flashed to a certain criteria.

You should get a flash even if you're stock. the car needs one that badly. Once you get mods you should have that tune adjusted for the new mods to extract the most from them.

^ awesome Q... exactly what i was wondering as well... pls answer

what if you didnt want to tune?

If you dont want to tune, then dont. But the mods you have on your car are basically crippled with the amount of performance they could possibly unleash.

The stock X is crippled from the factory its tuned so poorly. Mods help some, but a tune brings the whole package together and makes for a much more fun and powerful car.

Plus the tune is the cheapest mod you can get for the most power.

yeah you can pay 600 and get 25 HP out u can spend 759 (guess) for a tune and get close to 75 WHP

i CANT wait till i can go to AMS and get a personal tune :D


POST NUMBER 700!!!!!! :D

If you dont want to tune, then dont. But the mods you have on your car are basically crippled with the amount of performance they could possibly unleash.

The stock X is crippled from the factory its tuned so poorly. Mods help some, but a tune brings the whole package together and makes for a much more fun and powerful car.

Plus the tune is the cheapest mod you can get for the most power.
^ what he said.