So if i have wheels that are +38 offset like stock, and would like it to sit like a +20 would putting a wheel spacer help? Or is my thinking on this wrong? I understand about just getting a +20 set of wheels but already have them.

Also how much of a visible difference is there? Thanks

So if i have wheels that are +38 offset like stock, and would like it to sit like a +20 would putting a wheel spacer help? Or is my thinking on this wrong? I understand about just getting a +20 set of wheels but already have them.

Also how much of a visible difference is there? Thanks


put a 25mm spacer, with 1.5degree of camber, will look perfect. i know becasue i had 25mm spacers on my stock wheels. looked great.

my dyno picture below is with spacers.

thanks

is it safe to run that spacer on the stock wheel setup? will i need to lengthen the studs at all... maybe a retarded question.
<--noob to evos, and spacers for that matter.

Dont run spacers if you plan to do anything remotely close to performance driving. I dont care what anyone on here says, had engineers designed studs to have spacers on them they would make all wheels the same and use spacers to save money. the longer the stud the more weight and stress you are loading beyond the center which increases the further out it goes. If you drive like an old lady then go for it. Just sell your wheels and buy different offset wheels.

yeah i dont plan on tracking or auto-xing my car (at least for a while), i just hate the wheel gap and how far in the stock wheels are. hopefully some spacers and works springs will keep me happy long enough to save up for some advans... so uhh, a 25mm spacer should be relatively flush?

25mm is a lot...that's almost an inch!

^^ true, I would also like to know what harm it can do.

25mm is a lot...that's almost an inch!

...yup, so uhh what size could make the stockers relatively flush?

i have +22 offset with 15mm spacers :) and i love how the way my car looks :)

25mm spacers come with own studs built in them, they bot to you factory hub, then the wheel bolts to the spacer. i ran thsi setup for 4 months.

^^ so 25 mm is fine then?

^^ so 25 mm is fine then?


its exactly what is pictured in my sig pic. buy them from http://adaptitusa.com/

which pattern did u get, just to make sure.

its exactly what is pictured in my sig pic. buy them from http://adaptitusa.com/


Do you have any better pics of your car ?

Do you have any better pics of your car ?

hah, ya, search my name, youll find a crap load

^^^
here's some good one's i think

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7682

awesome... guess ill be looking to buy some 25mm spacers and springs. wheel gap can eat a dick.

Does the car wheels need rebalancing/alignment after adding spacers?

^No it won't need to be rebalanced.
Alignment is generally not necessary either for spacers.

So if i have wheels that are +38 offset like stock, and would like it to sit like a +20 would putting a wheel spacer help? Or is my thinking on this wrong? I understand about just getting a +20 set of wheels but already have them.

Also how much of a visible difference is there? Thanks

like this
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Mitsubishi/Other/auction-191716018.htm

didnt want to start another thread so i found this one :D...

So i have Enkie RFP1's( 18x8.5), here are the
Offset: +30mm
Backspacing: 5.82"
Bolt Pattern: 5-114
Rec. Tire Size: 245/40-18
Weight: 18.3lbs.

with Sumitomo HTR Z III's ( 245/40 )

now my question is i want them to sit a little further out then they do now, so what size spacer should i get and where can i get them....

^You would want to get either 10mm or 15mm spacers.

You need hub-centric spacers (load bearing at hub), the spacers should allow a center bore of 67.1 to fit at the hub on the inside, and a CB of 73 on the outside to mate with your RPF1's. Try to get the exact size without going with ring adapters.

Get quality spacers, made of A7075 Duraluminum. I recommend KSP-Real or Kics brand. Also, anything thicker than a 10mm, the spacer will have 12x1.5 studs of its own to adapt to your wheel. Your spacer at the end should look like this:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk13/xy1904/Forums/p1.jpg

Does anyone have thoughts about having different size spacers for front and rear? I was told to get 15mm for the rear and 20mm for the front by a vendor ... does that make sense?

Does anyone have thoughts about having different size spacers for front and rear? I was told to get 15mm for the rear and 20mm for the front by a vendor ... does that make sense?

Makes sense aesthetically - you could go lower on the offset in the front than the rear before you stick the wheel out of fenders. But I wouldn't recommend it, 15mm spacers are bad enough for your drivetrain.

what is the largest offset spacer i can get with my stock wheels, without them rubbing the fenders or doing any other damage? my car is also lowerd about an inch..... anybody anybody?

If you have springs on your car, the max spacer you could probably go without messing with your fenders is probably 25mm, so 13mm offset?

That's current what I have on my car (with an Eibach Pro Kit). I only rub in the fronts when I have the wheel cranked all the way. But in this event, the car is barely creeping and isn't damaging the tires really.

Pic for reference:

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/B_Home_916/DSCF1832.jpg

http://i1132.photobucket.com/albums/m572/B_Home_916/DSCF1830-1.jpg

Hey thanks a lot for the info, and pics. that really gives ma a better idea of what they will look like. i have a couple more questions for you though. So they make a 13mm spacer? What brand did you go with? did you have to role the rear fenders? thanks agian man

Hey thanks a lot for the info, and pics. that really gives ma a better idea of what they will look like. i have a couple more questions for you though. So they make a 13mm spacer? What brand did you go with? did you have to role the rear fenders? thanks agian man

The company I ordered from, Motorsport Technology, can make spacers in any desired thickness. They are specially machined to exact specifications from a solid piece of aluminum. So no hub centric rings required. Fitment is perfect.

No rolling of the rear fenders needed.

And don't get confused between offset and spacer width. A 25mm spacer will give you a 13mm offset with stock Evo X wheel.

If you need further clarification, the forum spacer FAQ is very helpful:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10085

G'luck

I am still pondering on getting me some H&R 15mm wheel spacers (w/ longer studs -I believe H&Rs come with them) but I keep reading differing reviews and I am not sure if it will be ok to run these spacers or am I going to have vibration issues. Looks wise I think spacers can look really good on a lowered X (especially if running negative camber), but don't want to hurt my overall handling or screw up my drivetrain...anyone running the (H&R) 15mm wheel spacers and have pics/reviews???

Thanks!

I ran 25mm spacers only car for 20k+ miles with 0 problems, I always felt completely safe using them as well. Tq everything down properly and get hubcentric spacers that are made for your car. (old photo)

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q304/logonzojls/evo%20x/88bba282.jpg

Also, not to confuse you about offset and spacers...

A 18x9.5" wheel with a +20 offset will stick out further than a 18x8.5" wheel +38 with a 25mm spacer, making the offset 13mm. The offset is relative to the width of the wheel. That being said I think that a 20 or 25 mm spacer would fit your enkeis the best. 25 mm being a bit more aggressive than a wheel that is 18x9.5" +20.

I just had 15mm spacers test fitted on my car today, i had the toughest time deciding between the 15mm spacers and the 20mm because the 15's would sit good but left a little bit of space still so i went with the 20mm. Hopefully it wont cause any issues performance wise. But all i can tell you is that the 15mm isnt perfectly flush with the fenders, whereas the 20mm is much closer to being really flush.

The 20mm looks better with stock wheels than 15mm.

I changed from 15mm spacers to 20mm and it actually makes a difference in the way the car drives. 20mm spacers made the reaction of the car to throttle input slower and suspension reaction seemed to slow down. I'm pretty sure it has to do with the same track width but a changed contact patch - it alters the suspension geometry with the ground. It has an increased lever effect.

I went back to 15mm and am happy but be warned that spacers does change the driving feel of the car. Once you start getting into super large spacers, your suspension is really whacked out and handling is greatly compromised.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q286/beanbag137/ht/Slide1.png

It's posts like ^^^ that make me think twice about spacers...Z k would you say that your car handles "worse" than stock with the 15mm spacers on?

Thanks for the input!

I have 15mm spacers and honestly I couldn't see doing more than that, looks so good.

4-D any noticable negative effects on the handling? Also, what spacers are you running? Thanks.

I honestly don't think there is much harm in putting spacers on your car if you're operating the vehicle under normal driving circumstance.

If you throw 25mm on your ride and then go beat the hell out of it on the track over the course of a year... yes, you're going to wreak havoc on your suspension and drivetrain.

People just need to be smart about using them and know the limits of their purpose. Tighten them down to specified torque levels, use hub-centric rings, be smart, and you are unlikely to have any problems.

I haven't experienced any adverse effects or compromised handling from my 25mm spacers.

I agree 100%:amen:

B home how come you're not running stage 2 (just randomly curious since you appear to be modded enough for it)?

4-D any noticable negative effects on the handling? Also, what spacers are you running? Thanks.

I know it isn't aimed at me but i just installed H&R 15mm spacers over the weekend. Looks amazing on the car. I do get some rubbing when turning, but i also have brand new tires (still on stock OEM GSR wheels). Nothing serious or bad enough to do any damage at all. I am super OCD and noticed the slightest bit of change in response (next to minimal). IMO it isn't enough to make a difference, but enough that I notice it. It could have been the 40mph wind gusts too messing with my mind. I am definitely keeping them on in the mean time until i pick up some 18x9.5 wheels (6-12months from now). Can't answer to true handling because I havent pushed it. Overall I am happy with them!

I know it isn't aimed at me but i just installed H&R 15mm spacers over the weekend. Looks amazing on the car. I do get some rubbing when turning, but i also have brand new tires (still on stock OEM GSR wheels). Nothing serious or bad enough to do any damage at all. I am super OCD and noticed the slightest bit of change in response (next to minimal). IMO it isn't enough to make a difference, but enough that I notice it. It could have been the 40mph wind gusts too messing with my mind. I am definitely keeping them on in the mean time until i pick up some 18x9.5 wheels (6-12months from now). Can't answer to true handling because I havent pushed it. Overall I am happy with them!

Post some pics if you don't mind

I'll snap some tomorrow and post them up after work!

Thanks ^^^....How does 5mm spacers look? Would that even do anything appearance wise (I don't think I want any rubbing issues, so now 15mm seems much)? I am guessing performance wise would be the best since it affects the suspension the least but does anyone have 5mm or even 10mm spacers...Thanks!

I have 20mm on stock MR wheels and I don't have any rubbing. I'm also dropped on Eibach springs.

V8, why would you be rubbing if you moved the tire out, what am I missing?

I think 15mm would be the limit in terms of how big I'd want to go. Going up to 20mm made a big difference in how the car felt. Overall spacers put a lot of stress on the car and the motion ratio is off compared to stock.

Appearance-wise the 20mm looked better though.

B home how come you're not running stage 2 (just randomly curious since you appear to be modded enough for it)?

No test pipe/HFC at the moment.

My plan is to save up and knock everything out in one go....

DP
HFC
3port
ProTune
Intercooler (probably)

For the time being, I am just maxing out the stock turbo. I rely on this car too much as a DD to go apeshit with the motor (for the time being):dancebanana:

I have 20mm on stock MR wheels and I don't have any rubbing. I'm also dropped on Eibach springs.

V8, why would you be rubbing if you moved the tire out, what am I missing?

Spacers only cause you to rub in the front really (with wheel turned all the way)... again it's not even an issue since your going what, 5 mph when you're flipping a b*tch or parking..? The front fender liner's design just isn't the best for avoiding rubbing when pushing the tire outwards.

I think 15mm would be the limit in terms of how big I'd want to go. Going up to 20mm made a big difference in how the car felt. Overall spacers put a lot of stress on the car and the motion ratio is off compared to stock.

Appearance-wise the 20mm looked better though.

They also add to the rotating unsprung weight which needs to be at a minimum for handling, if that is what you are after. If it just looks that's different.

I have 20mm on stock MR wheels and I don't have any rubbing. I'm also dropped on Eibach springs.

V8, why would you be rubbing if you moved the tire out, what am I missing?

B Home 916 pretty much hit it. I only rub in the front and when i am going like 5 mph in parking lots turning. Really not sure why I am rubbing because I am also on Eibach springs. It is rubbing on the little gill part of the inner wheel well when turning in parking lots. Plowed through a snow bank in mammoth awhile back and wondering if maybe for some reason it didnt cause a 1-2mm change in where my wheel well is sitting. I also have brand new tires on the wheels so the full tread could add to it. It is nothing serious at all and doesnt happen all the time. There is ZERO rubbing when I am actually driving.

They also add to the rotating unsprung weight which needs to be at a minimum for handling, if that is what you are after. If it just looks that's different.

+1 It definitely feels less responsive with larger spacers. The spacers themselves aren't heavy but it is harder for the car to spin as they are further from the axles.

Anyone running 5mm or 10mm spacers?

Apologize for the iphone pics. The spacers are H&R 15mm. It is a little hard to tell because of the black wheels, but you can still get the idea!

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/V8eatr/IMG_0651.jpg

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/V8eatr/IMG_0652.jpg

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http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/V8eatr/IMG_0654.jpg

http://i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab329/V8eatr/IMG_0656.jpg

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