: Official Canadian Spec sheets


LowUFO
11-10-2007, 08:59 PM
I photocopied these today when I put my deposit down on my new black MR..The pics are big but at least you can see the read the info.

Spec sheets..

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Tech spec sheets...

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_Chris_
11-10-2007, 09:07 PM
Prices?

Jackygor
11-10-2007, 09:44 PM
Wow Pushing At 3,600 Pounds!!! Oh Noes!!

Jackygor
11-10-2007, 09:44 PM
Sorry double post*

I am a bit disappointed in 3,600 lbs, that is almost as heavy as my old G35 coupe.

Where is the price?

silvreclipse
11-10-2007, 10:23 PM
yes price where is it.

LowUFO
11-10-2007, 10:35 PM
No freakin' prices yet. They said probably not until just before the GSR arrives in Jan. or Feb.

But they wrote out my order based on their guestimate of $50k cdn for the MR.

Jackygor
11-10-2007, 10:42 PM
No freakin' prices yet. They said probably not until just before the GSR arrives in Jan. or Feb.

But they wrote out my order based on their guestimate of $50k cdn for the MR.

Thanks!

So 300 lb of torque at 4000 rpm, that is about 400 rpm faster than early estimation?

LowUFO
11-10-2007, 10:50 PM
I dunno but I read somewhere a few months ago that they expected all torque at 3000rpm. That would have been badass.

RumbleMe
11-11-2007, 02:41 AM
Yikes, the weight is the first thing I noticed as well. 3600 !!!

Thanks for the scan. Interested to see your final price still.

soopah
11-11-2007, 04:17 AM
This is not making me too excited. Lower hp, higher rpm for torque peak, higher weight, and guesstimating $50K for the MR, this is making me cold on the EVO in Canada. No heated seats for the GSR???

Jackygor
11-11-2007, 04:24 AM
This is not making me too excited. Lower hp, higher rpm for torque peak, higher weight, and guesstimating $50K for the MR, this is making me cold on the EVO in Canada. No heated seats for the GSR???

Same...from the looking at the weight, it doesn't look too fast either...if it is going to cost 50k, it better do better than 5.0 second from 0-60 and 13.8 in 1/4 miles...

LowUFO
11-11-2007, 04:47 AM
I'm not overly impressed about the weight either. But I'm focused on the fact that this Evo is faster around a track than the previous version.

LowUFO
11-11-2007, 01:42 PM
Also, I'm wondering if this is a typo. I can't help wondering how its possible for the car to gain that much weight given they must have spent a lot of time and money developing that aluminum motor to save 27lbs over the 4g63, then they decided to go w aluminum fenders, hood, and roof to save even more weight. So lets say they had stuck with the 4g63 and left the body panels as steel, that would have put the weight increase at 400lbs. Theres no way a different tranny and clutch setup could account for that type of gain. Plus, the GSR w regular tranny and clutch still would weight close to 300lbs over the previous gen car..

Jackygor
11-11-2007, 07:30 PM
Also, I'm wondering if this is a typo. I can't help wondering how its possible for the car to gain that much weight given they must have spent a lot of time and money developing that aluminum motor to save 27lbs over the 4g63, then they decided to go w aluminum fenders, hood, and roof to save even more weight. So lets say they had stuck with the 4g63 and left the body panels as steel, that would have put the weight increase at 400lbs. Theres no way a different tranny and clutch setup could account for that type of gain. Plus, the GSR w regular tranny and clutch still would weight close to 300lbs over the previous gen car..

Canadian Evo X requires a more sturdy rear and front bumper thus raising the weight? :confused:

naw, probably not.

soopah
11-12-2007, 12:32 AM
Remember this old thread:
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14723

Wow, they sure look like heavier cars for Canada. WTF???

Jackygor
11-13-2007, 01:10 AM
Remember this old thread:
http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=14723

Wow, they sure look like heavier cars for Canada. WTF???

Ya, I thought it is a world car? Every evo x in the world should be the same...

DaemonSadi
11-13-2007, 02:50 AM
Canada has some weird requirements that made them give it larger bumpers or something like that.

soopah
11-13-2007, 10:32 PM
I went to the dealer today. Confirmed the weight from the same spec sheets as were posted here. Also I told him (sales manager) to hold off on ordering my Graphite Grey GSR until I had a chance to come in and see a GSR in person (need to sell myself on the wheels, spoiler, etc.). He said he would not be allowing any test drives and it would just sit in the show room for presentations/walkarounds. He was trying to get Mitsu Canada to give a media demo for BC, but nothing yet. The first one to arrive is a white GSR in late December, ~ the 23rd. The second to arrive is a black GSR in early January (huh, US cannot get a black GSR but Canada can???).

He also talked about there being a 2009 Lancer Ralliart in late 2008 that would be AWD and around 240 hp. He expected it to be priced around what a WRX sells for or a little less, and the WRX now sells for almost $34K.

Still no word on pricing for the Evo in Canada, expects pricing in a month or so.

If you could buy a 2008 WRX STI in the US for the same price as a 2008 WRX wagon /2009 Lancer Ralliart in Canada, what would you do? I know, you'd buy an Evo, haha!

Jackygor
11-13-2007, 10:41 PM
I went to the dealer today. Confirmed the weight from the same spec sheets as were posted here. Also I told him (sales manager) to hold off on ordering my Graphite Grey GSR until I had a chance to come in and see a GSR in person (need to sell myself on the wheels, spoiler, etc.). He said he would not be allowing any test drives and it would just sit in the show room for presentations/walkarounds. He was trying to get Mitsu Canada to give a media demo for BC, but nothing yet. The first one to arrive is a white GSR in late December, ~ the 23rd. The second to arrive is a black GSR in early January (huh, US cannot get a black GSR but Canada can???).

He also talked about there being a 2009 Lancer Ralliart in late 2008 that would be AWD and around 240 hp. He expected it to be priced around what a WRX sells for or a little less, and the WRX now sells for almost $34K.

Still no word on pricing for the Evo in Canada, expects pricing in a month or so.

If you could buy a 2008 WRX STI in the US for the same price as a 2008 WRX wagon /2009 Lancer Ralliart in Canada, what would you do? I know, you'd buy an Evo, haha!

Thank you!

Colour that was coming in looks great, white and black :)

Its nice we can get black GSR here, but no extra goodie from the MR still makes me sad :(

I should phone up my sales to see if they have any new info.

soopah
11-14-2007, 12:31 AM
Colour that was coming in looks great, white and black :)

Its nice we can get black GSR here, but no extra goodie from the MR still makes me sad :(

I should phone up my sales to see if they have any new info.

Yeah, I hope the white looks nice in person. Please do report back anything you hear from your dealer/salesperson. Only in multiple responses from different people do we actually get something nearing the truth of the matter. If someone knows of a dealer in Metro Vancouver offering test drives in the Evo let us know. I need to drive it at least a little before I lay down 40+ G's!

LowUFO
01-10-2008, 03:55 PM
Just an update here. I had my gf email the dealer today and request a change to my order. I have ordered a GG GSR instead.
I can take the $5k savings and put it towards a set of springs, a nicer set of wheels and tires (19x10 rims w a 35 offset and 265/30 tires), and some tint and maybe even an Accessport-I know Christian at Cobb so maybe he'll hook me up. Then throw in a bit more dough and do an intercooler and cut the res and cat out of the exhaust or whatever.
And so I lose the Fastkey. No biggie. Gonna put in a Compustar remote start/alarm anyway.
Heated seats, who cares.
HIDs, damn. Kinda wanted those.
Painted vents, a couple hundred can get the black ones painted at a bodyshop. I already know a place..
Chrome grill surround and beltline trim, meh.

But I get the car sooner probably, and the gearbox will be stronger. Plus tuning and whatnot will be easier.

Its a win win..win situation. :)

soopah
01-10-2008, 04:00 PM
Just an update here. I had my gf email the dealer today and request a change to my order. I have ordered a GG GSR instead.

What is the ETA on your revised car?

LowUFO
01-10-2008, 04:04 PM
Good q. Don't know yet. We only emailed the sales guy this am. But since we're fourth on the list at that dealer, I know we'll be waiting for a while yet.
But once they release pricing, I'll probably go in and sort out the financing and stuff so all we have to do is wait.

LowUFO
01-10-2008, 04:21 PM
Has anyone been able to order one in black?

verkion
01-11-2008, 02:38 AM
Yep...Phantom Black MR Premium. Port date: March 15, 08. No prices, guaranteed under 50K Cdn. (So for Americans, maybe around 42 and under?) No other info other than the spec sheets, (which I've been sitting on for more than a month...just looked so similar to other ones I didn't bother posting them), the little brochure and ummmm, nope, that's it! LOL. BTW, you can order ANY color for the MR...not sure it the Phantom Black and Wicked White are MR ONLY colors though!

verkion

Jackygor
01-11-2008, 04:02 AM
Yep...Phantom Black MR Premium. Port date: March 15, 08. No prices, guaranteed under 50K Cdn. (So for Americans, maybe around 42 and under?) No other info other than the spec sheets, (which I've been sitting on for more than a month...just looked so similar to other ones I didn't bother posting them), the little brochure and ummmm, nope, that's it! LOL. BTW, you can order ANY color for the MR...not sure it the Phantom Black and Wicked White are MR ONLY colors though!

verkion

They let you choose colour? My stealership kept telling me they don't have a choice = =

verkion
01-11-2008, 04:34 AM
HAhaha...ok, so what happened was, the dealers got their "allotment" and I got my name against the car which I wanted. So even better for me, the deposit is 100% refundable even when the car arrives cause it wasn't "custom ordered" for me. It was exactly what I was looking for though...he DID say that if I wanted to order one, not a problem and that I could get it in any of the colors, (the MR that is).

verkion

soopah
01-11-2008, 05:54 AM
They let you choose colour? My stealership kept telling me they don't have a choice = =

They may or may not have a choice in their initial alotment (though I don't believe it) but you have a choice. Just like you have a choice of tranny. Not much of a choice, not an 'everything else being equal' choice, but a choice.

Related issue, the new MINI Clubman's were delivered in only two colour schemes. After the first shipment you can choose your colour, but you gotta wait. They did this with transmissions for the first new new MINI's in 2007, Cooper only came in auto and Cooper S only came in manual. After the first month or two you could get the other tranny.

The point is, they want to get out the most cars as quick as they can with the least fuss and bother. Later, when the production line is moving and cars are in the system, they may let you get more creative and order cars. The pattern has been, however, that cars in Canada have much fewer choices of options and colours than the same cars in the USA.

PS Why are some countries preceded by 'the', such as the USA and the Ukraine and the Dominican Republic, and other countries, like Canada, China and Japan, sound dumb if preceded by 'the'? Can you imagine saying to your buddy, 'yeah, I travelled to the Japan and the China before I came home on a red-eye to the Canada'? Likewise, it sounds strange to say 'let's drive down to USA and take a cruise to Dominican Republic. Sure, can my girlfriend from Ukraine join us?'

Don't mind me, it's late...

LowUFO
01-11-2008, 06:00 AM
So my gf finally got hold of the sales guy who said I might not be able to get a GG GSR but I can get a white one. I told her and she told him no way. So I might be going to get my deposit back on Saturday. I'll pull it if I have to and I sure as hell don't want white.
I'm not going to settle for whatever color they can get me. If I don't get what I want, I'll just ask another dealer or I'll find a completely different car (the Toronto car show is only a few weeks away..).

LowUFO
01-11-2008, 06:01 AM
Oh, and I asked Nikki to ask him for an approx. eta and he couldn't say anything more than "Spring".

soopah
01-11-2008, 06:14 AM
I think the hype for this car will scale back a bit, but you will find it hard to find a Canadian dealer that doesn't have way more deposits than cars available for the year. That said, tell you dealer you only want GG, and you will wait until they get a GG. This is like waiting in the cashier line for your wife who went back to change the yogurt for a different flavour or for a better best before date, just keep waving people forward until she comes back. Tell your dealer you will keep your deposit there until they have a GG for you, you will not take white, and if that doesn't work for them then you will take back your deposit. They may also be able to trade the white car for a GG car from another local dealer.

I have yet to buy a different car, and until I do I will keep my deposit at [name removed] Mitsubishi in Vancouver, though I am now trying to wheel and deal on a 2008 Legacy GT Wagon manual in Diamond Grey metallic or Obsidian Black pearl (would prefer the grey, of course). Could be a fun grocery getter, and better for my work, too.

LowUFO
01-11-2008, 02:12 PM
My gf called two other dealers this morning. One has brochures now! The other didnt. The one w brochures said the GSR does in fact come in Phantom Black and that 200 more cars have been allocated to Canada. They also said that the ETA is end of March for both the GSR and MR. The other dealer that had no brochures didn't know for sure if the GSR was avail in black and said the ETA for the GSR is end of Feb. Deposit at the brochure equipped dealer is $5k and $3k at the other dealer.

It would be nice to get consistent information, but I'm going back to my dealer tomorrow and going to say if they can't get me a GG or Phantom Black one, I will remove my deposit and take it to another dealer. I can always put more dough down if I am going to get better, more well informed service elsewhere..I'm already getting frustrated w the lack of knowledge at the place I have my deposit. They know less about the car than I do!

HRCboy
01-12-2008, 01:21 AM
[quote=LowUFO;26814]ETA for the GSR is end of Feb. Deposit at the brochure equipped dealer is $5k and $3k at the other dealer.
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I was told from my dealer in BC that they should have a car for me shortly after Jan 18th. Apparently that is when they will be launching their GSRs across Canada.

Wow.. you had to put a deposit of $5000? I just had to do $1000 I also have a deposit on the STI. Was leaning more towards the STI but now they are playing games on the release date so I'm guessing that they are not going to charge the $43k like the dealer says they might be.

If the GSR is priced reasonably I'll probably go for that.

But I've been test driving some other cars.. Drove my buddies 08 Legacy Spec B and honestly I'm not too impressed with that car. Nothing down low under 4500rpm. The suspension I found was soft and kind of bouncy.

Drove a 07 BMW 335i with sport pkg... and that thing is awesome. Power everywhere and pulls strong all the way up to the top. Very good sport seats and suspension. I would of pick this up but the EVO X is just a week away. So Let's wait and see.

Jackygor
01-12-2008, 01:52 AM
STI is released in Toronto apparently, and the MSRP for the car is 46k CND, which includes BBS rims and the navi, in other words, fully loaded STI cost 46k cnd. If that is true, then I expect MR to be around 44k?

HRCboy
01-12-2008, 06:49 AM
STI is released in Toronto apparently, and the MSRP for the car is 46k CND, which includes BBS rims and the navi, in other words, fully loaded STI cost 46k cnd. If that is true, then I expect MR to be around 44k?

If this is true... I'll have to stop by My Subie Dealer to get my deposit back. I'm not paying 46k plus another 2k for PDI and other fees. $48k for an STI when you can pick up one from the states for about $38k.

We already pay thru our noses for income TAXES now this BS markup for cars is just plain insane!

LowUFO
01-12-2008, 07:09 AM
I've only got a $1k deposit down at the moment, but if they can't confirm a Phantom Black GSR for me, then I'll remove it and go to the place that wants $5k deposit and see if I can talk them down and get a firm yes to the black GSR.

The STi isn't released here yet, but a few dealers locally have them already and are showing them off despite being told by Subaru of Canada to keep shtum for now. One Hamilton dealer said $46k for theirs. Apparently, according to one dealer, the release is this Tuesday officially..

Jackygor
01-12-2008, 07:50 AM
I've only got a $1k deposit down at the moment, but if they can't confirm a Phantom Black GSR for me, then I'll remove it and go to the place that wants $5k deposit and see if I can talk them down and get a firm yes to the black GSR.

The STi isn't released here yet, but a few dealers locally have them already and are showing them off despite being told by Subaru of Canada to keep shtum for now. One Hamilton dealer said $46k for theirs. Apparently, according to one dealer, the release is this Tuesday officially..

Which makes sense why Mitsubishi will release the price of Evo X on the 18th, Montreal Auto Show.

LowUFO
01-12-2008, 09:57 PM
ok, so I'm all set. My dealer found me a black GSR arriving sometime after mid Feb! We went up there today and he had called and left a msg on my gf's phone this morning saying he'd found the car we want. So I scowled at the gf a bit for not checking her phone this morning and we went to look at the new STi at Budd's Subaru for the hell of it. Midnight Blue looks good. The dash looks very nice. Very clean design around the stereo and vents. The trunk doesn't seem to have as much room as the gf's Mazda 3. Seat material was nice too. One thing I didn't like was the placement of the heated seat button/dials. Right under the driver's elbow. If I had to buy the STi, Midnight Blue w grey BBS looked much better in person. But those fugly tail light lenses would be the first thing to go..

HRCboy
01-13-2008, 12:47 AM
Kind of Funny we're in the same boat. My wife drives a Mazda 3 sport so she is questioning why we need another hatch for the family.

Still undecided on what to get... STI, EVOX or 335i. I really want to check out the fit and finish of the STI and EVOs.

Kind of crappy that we can get leather for the GSR though. I think from pictures the STI interior is better but I like the exterior looks of the EVO more. I guess price will be a deciding factor on which is a better bang for the buck.


ok, so I'm all set. My dealer found me a black GSR arriving sometime after mid Feb! We went up there today and he had called and left a msg on my gf's phone this morning saying he'd found the car we want. So I scowled at the gf a bit for not checking her phone this morning and we went to look at the new STi at Budd's Subaru for the hell of it. Midnight Blue looks good. The dash looks very nice. Very clean design around the stereo and vents. The trunk doesn't seem to have as much room as the gf's Mazda 3. Seat material was nice too. One thing I didn't like was the placement of the heated seat button/dials. Right under the driver's elbow. If I had to buy the STi, Midnight Blue w grey BBS looked much better in person. But those fugly tail light lenses would be the first thing to go..

LowUFO
01-13-2008, 01:06 AM
Yeah, its a fun decision to have to make. EVO X GSR or STi. Once we have pricing for both cars, we'll sit down and do a proper comparo w pros and cons for the money. But without knowing for sure how much dough they are going to be, its not possible to decide. They're quite different yet so similar.
If the money was about the same and the choice was my gf's to make alone, she would pick the EVO because of the exterior. If it were mine to make alone, I would pick the STi because of the interior, the midnight blue looking so good, and it being a Subaru (I Moderate on www.toronto-subaru-club.com (http://www.toronto-subaru-club.com) and have owned one for four years)..
As its a joint decision (she thinks), if the money were the same right now, we'd get the EVO based on the fresh design, potential for power and looks w a little mod money thrown at it, and I suspect we'll see less EVO Xs than STis..

Now if the 335i were the same price, well, I would be eating sauerkraut by sun up..

HRCboy
01-13-2008, 09:46 AM
Haha that is the dilemma I have.. cause I've found a slightly used 6sp 335i (4500miles) for that price - Fully loaded with navi, sport and premium pkg with the fast access too. 3year warranty left (US car that was imported).

$49k no doc fees - BMW fully loaded
$47k = $45k plus 2k in doc fees - STI fully loaded
$47k = $45k plus 2k in doc fees - GSR , no leather, no HID, no Navi

What to do? I'm leaning towards the EVO X but the other two is so hard to overlook. Cause we are spending most of our time inside the car. The BMW is soooo luxurious inside... almost enough for me to give up a bit of performance for the amenities.

The STI is kind of a balance of the two.

It be nice if the MR is priced around $47k but I can wait that long for a car. I've been sharing cars with my wife and I don't think I can wait any longer.

LowUFO
01-13-2008, 02:22 PM
I looked at used 335i coupes too. My only issue w that is I suspect that low klm cars for sale probably had or have the fuel pump problem and the orig. owner just got fed up w the starting issues.

My other problem w the 335i coupe (which, lets face it, is the looker over the 4 door version) is that I have a puppy that is rapidly growing into a big dog and I want to be able to put him into the car relatively easily. And once in a while I have ppl in the back of the car. I find it a little uncivilized to ask them to climb in behind the tilted forward seats in a 2 door car.

darth g-f
01-13-2008, 04:58 PM
I'm in the same boat. I'm looking at the 335i, Evo X and STi. Price will no doubt be the deciding factor. Depending on the interest rate a STi or EvoX can easily cost as much as a 335i.

I'm waiting for the official prices (and interest rate) to come out so I can make my decision. But so far, the real performance bargain appears to be the 335i. Vishnu has reflashes options up to 400hp. With all the luxuries that comes with a BMW this appears to be a no-brainer.

I really like the Evo, but they have to be priced right.

LowUFO
01-13-2008, 08:59 PM
I would think the interest rates are similar on all three, no?

darth g-f
01-14-2008, 01:00 AM
I would think the interest rates are similar on all three, no?

Well BMW had 3.9% in december and are now up to 4.9%. Mitsu I have no idea.

I don't know for you, given similar price, I'd go for the 335i first, X second and STi last. I can't wait to see the canadian price release.

soopah
01-15-2008, 03:27 AM
$49k no doc fees - BMW fully loaded
$47k = $45k plus 2k in doc fees - STI fully loaded
$47k = $45k plus 2k in doc fees - GSR , no leather, no HID, no Navi


I think the GSR should be at least $2K less than that.

soopah
01-15-2008, 03:33 AM
STI gives you a lot for that price, NAV, leather, it is a hatch which has more functional space than the sedans, it will be rocking the WRC, it has an engine and chassis with mucho mods available on the aftermarket.

What I like about the Evo X are the looks from the front and the cool AWD that pushes the rear outside wheel during cornering which helps to rotate the car and go faster through turns.

LowUFO
01-15-2008, 05:25 AM
Me and the gf were throwing around a pros and cons list for the GSR and the STi but until I have pricing for both w available options for the GSR and until we see the EVO in the flesh (we already checked out the STi at a local dealer), we can't make that final decision.

Here is the list..so far..

EVO X GSR

Pros

-Cool color (Phantom Black).
-Good looks.
-Recaros!
-Excellent tires.
-AWD that drives like RWD.
-5spd (In traffic jams I way prefer it to 6spd)
-Probable rarity.
-Potential for wicked badass looks w some different rims and suspension.
-Potential for easy hp gains w a few simple mods.
-Forged internals.
-If available to Canadians, the optional RF stereo sounds great.
-Small engine won't drink too much gas in this current climate of escalating gas prices.
-Buying from the same company that made the EVO VI.
-Probably going to be cheaper to get into a base GSR than the fully loaded Canadian spec STi.
-Strong 5spd trans.
-Fresh start w a new car brand and fresh new design.

Cons

-Heavier than outgoing model.
-Stock wheels are too heavy.
-Absolutely must buy bigger wheels, wider tires, and some kind of lower suspension setup to finish off appearance due to disproportionately tall side profile..
-New engine with unknown limitations.
-Tough to put snowboards or a mountain bike in car so a rack will be needed.
-Buying from a company that IMO makes some questionable business decisions.
-Buying from a company that has a questionable reputation where customer service is concerned.
-Officially so far, only avail in 3 models. No a la carte menu. Weak.
-Probably going to be more expensive than the Canadian spec STi when and if it is optioned similarly.

STi

Pros

-Doesn't look anywhere near as bad in person as it does in pictures.
-Wheels are better proportioned to bodywork.
-hatch gives room for boards or bike..or rapidly growing pain in the ass dog.
-Classier interior than GSR.
-Familiar driving environment due to current Subaru ownership.
-Easily modifiable due to same familiarity as engine is basically the same.
-Network of Subaru owner friends already in place as I Mod on Toronto Subaru Club.
-Comes well spec'd for the expected price.
-Comes w BBS forged wheels that I wouldn't change..for a while.
-Strong 6spd trans.
-Nicer seat coverings than the GSR.
-Buying from a solid company w solid customer service..mostly.

Cons

-Doesn't look anywhere near as nice as the GSR. It ain't no beauty queen.
-Only optioned one way for the Canadian market.
-9 speaker stereo is 550 watts weaker than the 10 speaker RF stereo we're hoping to see as an option in Cdn GSR.
-Seat heater dials in the most ridiculous placement I've ever seen.
-Dunlop tires aren't as good as the Yokos on the GSR.
-Only one option way..fully loaded. No base model for those w a lower budget a la U.S.


What does all this add up to? Nickel and diming. Thats what. Either car is going to be a blast and a few bucks more either way won't matter in the long run. Both cars will need some personalizing. Whether its the stereo in the STi or the wheels/tires/suspension of the EVO. Both will need a little more pep in the powerplant to recoup that seat of the pants thrill that has been massaged out.

So what have I decided? Feck all. I've got to wait for the Toronto Int'l Auto Show in mid Feb to compare head to head. Ideally, I would wait for Clarkson to give his official opinion, but that isn't going to happen til season 11...

verkion
01-15-2008, 06:04 AM
Uh...47K for the GSR? Where'd you hear those numbers? I was told NO MORE than 48K for MR Premium by the dealer...I'm guessing 42K or so for the GSR.

verkion

Jackygor
01-15-2008, 06:06 AM
Uh...47K for the GSR? Where'd you hear those numbers? I was told NO MORE than 48K for MR Premium by the dealer...I'm guessing 42K or so for the GSR.

verkion

That sounds about right. GSR is too lacking compared to the STI to justify the high price tag. MR on the other hand will be able to do that.

soopah
01-15-2008, 07:29 AM
Uh...47K for the GSR? Where'd you hear those numbers? I was told NO MORE than 48K for MR Premium by the dealer...I'm guessing 42K or so for the GSR.

$42K plus freight and pdi of about $1.5K plus dealer fees of [deity name removed] knows how much. Yes, it will be cheaper than the fully loaded STI, but by what margin, $2K, $3K, $4K, more? If it came in at $39,995 MSRP I'd give all props to Mitsu Canada, and it would still be f-ing overpriced!

Nex
01-16-2008, 02:21 AM
For all the Canadians.....EvoX arrives!
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news_2008/01/16/080116-2.htm

Jackygor
01-16-2008, 02:35 AM
For all the Canadians.....EvoX arrives!
http://www.canadiandriver.com/news_2008/01/16/080116-2.htm

HELL YAAA!!:rock::rock:

LowUFO
01-16-2008, 05:14 AM
Feckin sweet. When I switched my choice to a black GSR, I was told that I will get the first or second car out of that dealership so I could be driving the car, before the auto show hits Toronto. Haha!

soopah
01-16-2008, 07:12 AM
http://www.canadiandriver.com/galleries/2008/images/mitsubishi/2008_mitsubishi_lancer_evo/08evo_11-3074.jpg

NICE!

soopah
01-26-2008, 12:42 AM
Feckin sweet. When I switched my choice to a black GSR, I was told that I will get the first or second car out of that dealership so I could be driving the car, before the auto show hits Toronto. Haha!

When is the expected delivery date?

LowUFO
01-26-2008, 04:38 AM
They haven't said. But I'm giving them til the Toronto car show which is Feb 15-23. We'll go to the show, inspect the car in person and decide between that and the STi, and then if its still the EVO, I'll demand a delivery date. If they still can't give me one, I'll pull the deposit and go buy a Midnight Blue STi.

verkion
01-26-2008, 07:16 AM
First GSR that I know of in Vancouver is in at Northshore Mitsubishi...Got a call from them yesterday to "see" it although I want an MR Premium. They are asking 3K over MSRP for it...

verkion

Jackygor
01-26-2008, 07:33 AM
First GSR that I know of in Vancouver is in at Northshore Mitsubishi...Got a call from them yesterday to "see" it although I want an MR Premium. They are asking 3K over MSRP for it...

verkion

freaken bullshit :bowlol:

I think people who pre-order it will get it at MSRP...

verkion
01-29-2008, 01:17 AM
freaken bullshit :bowlol:

I think people who pre-order it will get it at MSRP...

??? No man...I'm not making this up! I went there end of December and talked with them about the Evo X and preordering. They weren't going to offer "preorders" unless you paid 3K upfront for it, at which point, when the car arrived they'd charge you MSRP for it! I got a call LAST week from them, (I left my number with them), about a GSR arriving at their lot. He wanted to let me know in case I wanted to go check it out. Shrug.

verkion

Jackygor
01-29-2008, 01:30 AM
??? No man...I'm not making this up! I went there end of December and talked with them about the Evo X and preordering. They weren't going to offer "preorders" unless you paid 3K upfront for it, at which point, when the car arrived they'd charge you MSRP for it! I got a call LAST week from them, (I left my number with them), about a GSR arriving at their lot. He wanted to let me know in case I wanted to go check it out. Shrug.

verkion

Holy crap, maybe i pre-ordered early, I made my sales write down "The car will be sold at MSRP, deposit refundable at anytime"

verkion
01-29-2008, 06:59 AM
You don't remember? I PM'd you about it. Hahahaha! Certain dealers are soooooo gouging/hoping to gouge their customers. Shrug. I think they are in for a nasty surprise...I mean, imagine, MR Premium is already 52K right? Add on 3K over MSRP + freight, PDI, whatever else...gah, 57K? Then throw in our wonderful taxes here and I'm sorry but I think I'd settle for a little less cornering performance and get a 335 instead.

verkion

soopah
01-31-2008, 09:48 PM
I think all us Canadians must take a stand and refuse to pay over MSRP. If there are dealers trying to gouge us then let us publicize the fact! We are already screwed on price, do we need a DP, too? :)

darth g-f
02-01-2008, 03:12 AM
I think all us Canadians must take a stand and refuse to pay over MSRP. If there are dealers trying to gouge us then let us publicize the fact! We are already screwed on price, do we need a DP, too? :)

I made MY stand, I'm buying a 335i. More luxuries, more speed, for 1500$ more (than the MR). Screw Mitsu, I won't pay 335 price for a souped up Lancer NO WAY! I read that the MR is 38kU$. Mitsu is really trying to fuck us up.

Anyone paying MSRP is a moron. But anyone paying a penny over MSRP is brain dead and deserve to be ripped off.

By the way, depending on financing rates, the Bimmer might as well end up being cheaper than the EVO. I don't know what Mitsu (and Subie) is smoking. But they used to build cars that would destroy anything in their price range. With the 335 and 135, BMW is building faster cars for the same money but with amenities and luxuries Mitsu can only dream about.

soopah
02-01-2008, 06:24 AM
But the car is a good car, and we can't all not buy one. We need to beat down on the dealer folks. I will not buy one, but if I go see the PB one tomorrow then I will vent at the sales manager. Still waiting for CarCostCanada to have invoice prices up for Evo X and STI. I'll try to get them and post them here. Helped me a little, in addition to other things, to get a really good deal on my car.

darth g-f
02-01-2008, 12:18 PM
Well I hope TC will align their bumper regulations with the US. Then I hope the EVO becomes legal for importation. Then I will laugh so hard at all the EVO piling up on the dealer's lot at 10k$ over the US price. I will laugh even louder if some schmoe decided to pay over msrp and tries to sell it using "one of the first canadian EVO, collector's car" in his selling ad...

Seriously Mitsu dropped the ball. My dealer was ashamed of the announced prices and hasn't found the courage to call me back since I asked them why they think an MR is worth the same price as a BMW 335i.

Don't forget that Mitsu didn't have EVO9 or 8 in Canada. They didn't have to adjust the EvoX price to not destroy their leased fleet or dealer's stock. They could sell the EVO at fair value. They could just price the canadian at the same price as a US Evo. They decided to rip us because they feel they will sell all their canadian cars. That's why. I am so fucking tired of car companies not respecting our canadian dollar it makes me sick.

If you buy, you're basically telling Mitsu you're ok with their pricing strategy in Canada. If I really badly wanted an EVOX I'd either:
-wait, wait, wait. Maybe US cars will become available in Canada.
-wait, wait, wait. Maybe Mitsu will realize we are not dumb and lower the prices.
-Wait, wait, wait. Maybe Mitsu will release incentives in order to move some cars.

You want an EVO, you should wait. The more people are waiting, the more pressure on Mitsu to act the right way.

Evor
02-01-2008, 02:35 PM
But the car is a good car, and we can't all not buy one. We need to beat down on the dealer folks. I will not buy one, but if I go see the PB one tomorrow then I will vent at the sales manager. Still waiting for CarCostCanada to have invoice prices up for Evo X and STI. I'll try to get them and post them here. Helped me a little, in addition to other things, to get a really good deal on my car.

I agree... the car is a good car, and I do really want to get one... but Mitsu Canada has decided that Cdn EVO buyers are complacent or eager enough to pay essentially the price of a 135i (GSR) or a 335i (MR)....

Like Darth g-f says, they can't come close to that kind of value.... Again, on top of being ripped at the MSRP price level... we get no options here... So we pay more, and we get less to choose from. Good idea Mitsu Canada.

Luckily, I'm not in a position to get one right away... although, in terms of cars (and not price/etc) that's still my first choice... but in terms of real world and everything else.... they're definitely driving me away as a customer...