First track day next month

[BADFISH6]

Thank you to all who replied, but after I had to cancel that trackday I forgot about this thread.

I did just sign up for my "second" first trackday at Atlanta Motorsports Park. I ordered Raybestos St43 front pads and ATE superblue which will hopefully more than suffice my braking needs. I also just put starspecs on my OEM enkeis which I will run at the track.
Questions:
I am planning on running OEM rear pads(with a good bit of meat on them) with front St43's. The rears should be able to hold up to it right?

What kind of gas mileage do you get at the track?(particularly those of you who run e85) The track doesnt sell e85 and im planning on bringing my 14 gallon reservoir and 5 gallon can. With the rate that e85 drains out of my tank daily driving, im not sure that will be enough for ~ 3 hours driving time.

Thanks,
Ryan

[nrvous]

Brakes will be fine first time out.

Expect the tires to expand pressure with heat and start with 29-30 psi. Magic pressure on the Dunlops is 38 but you might jump 10psi as you warm them up.

8 miles per gallon on the track. Seriously.
Unless you have a surge tank you will want to have it over half full all of the time.

Stephen

[youlose]

I'm not sure about e-85 usage however you will want to top off after each session. The only reason I recommend that is the long sweeping turn coming to the front straight is off camber to the passenger side. I didn't have trouble but a friend of mine did with fuel pick up. I personally recommend watching videos of the track on YouTube. I have posted a few, as well as a few others have. It helped me become more familiar with the track. I rode with a friend in an Evo around the track and watched his speeds in the turns and carried that into my own sessions. Turn 1 is brutal after the front straight. The instructors are very good most have headsets to communicate with you. Before I went to Barber I watched a few hours of videos of in car and outside of the car. When I got there I felt like I knew the place. Of course its a learning experience and not a race.

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[hinduboy74]

Had my first one last week and i'm still flying high off of it. Was at Road America and just got two sessions since i ran tech in the morning so i got the day for free. Cannot wait to di it again next year. Brakes were squeaking pretty bad after session two but i need new pads for next year anyways.

I ran super blue and star specs and couldn't have asked for more

[BADFISH6]

Originally Posted by nrvous

Brakes will be fine first time out.

Expect the tires to expand pressure with heat and start with 29-30 psi. Magic pressure on the Dunlops is 38 but you might jump 10psi as you warm them up.

8 miles per gallon on the track. Seriously.
Unless you have a surge tank you will want to have it over half full all of the time.

Stephen

Thanks for the info.
8 mpg on regular gas or e85? Ive read about starvation problems, but I didnt think my current setup would make enough grip to run into that issue.

Originally Posted by youlose

I'm not sure about e-85 usage however you will want to top off after each session. The only reason I recommend that is the long sweeping turn coming to the front straight is off camber to the passenger side. I didn't have trouble but a friend of mine did with fuel pick up. I personally recommend watching videos of the track on YouTube. I have posted a few, as well as a few others have. It helped me become more familiar with the track. I rode with a friend in an Evo around the track and watched his speeds in the turns and carried that into my own sessions. Turn 1 is brutal after the front straight. The instructors are very good most have headsets to communicate with you. Before I went to Barber I watched a few hours of videos of in car and outside of the car. When I got there I felt like I knew the place. Of course its a learning experience and not a race.

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Do you think Ill have enough grip to run into starvation problems on that turn? Im on OEM suspension and starspecs in OEM size.

Like I said in the other thread, I definitely will try to make it up Saturday to catch some ride along before I drive. Will also watch more videos.

What kind of gas mileage have you seen in your evo at AMP on regular gas?

Originally Posted by hinduboy74

Had my first one last week and i'm still flying high off of it. Was at Road America and just got two sessions since i ran tech in the morning so i got the day for free. Cannot wait to di it again next year. Brakes were squeaking pretty bad after session two but i need new pads for next year anyways.

I ran super blue and star specs and couldn't have asked for more

Awesome man. Im excited to put the star specs on the track. Havent really gotten see what they can do yet.

[youlose]

I would say wot for twenty min 6-8mpg. You will probably use 1/4 or more per session once up to speed in your 2,3 and 4th sessions. The car itself on stock equipment does very well with grip, its very easy to control. Do you ever go to blood mtn, or any spirited driving through the mtns? I didn't run the 245/40/18 Yoko I swapped to a 265/35/18 nitto invo. They did not run out of grip. I would read through Ryan Gates section on brake setups. I know a lot of folks like the st43. I went with ferroda 2500 all the way around on the X switched to rbf 600. I tried ferroda 2500 front and hawk rear on my nine and my balance was very off high speed braking. I am switching those prior to this event to the 2500 rears. If you don't have the chance to get with an instructor Saturday at least do the parade laps to get the layout in your head. I am a pretty good driver and be happy to have you ride around for a few laps at speed. If I can steal the keys to the X from my wife, or convince her to let you go with her. We are fitting the X with the 275/35/18 NT01 I ran on the 9 for two events. If needed there are a handful of local suppliers we use for brake fluids and brake pads, they can usually get what you need including safety gear within a few days.

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[orthojoe]

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket here, but you are thinking WAAAY too much into this for your first time out. The harsh reality is that you will not be anywhere near the limits of the car your first time. Just go and enjoy yourself.

Worry about fuel starvation once it happens. It won't happen your first time out, and likely not for a while. BTW, I go through 1/2 tank in a session at Thunderhill. 3.4mpg.

If you're not overheating your transmission, you are not even CLOSE to running hard, regardless of the track. SST will be the first 'issue' you run into once you get better. Until then, don't worry about it.

[BADFISH6]

Originally Posted by youlose

I would say wot for twenty min 6-8mpg. You will probably use 1/4 or more per session once up to speed in your 2,3 and 4th sessions. The car itself on stock equipment does very well with grip, its very easy to control. Do you ever go to blood mtn, or any spirited driving through the mtns? I didn't run the 245/40/18 Yoko I swapped to a 265/35/18 nitto invo. They did not run out of grip. I would read through Ryan Gates section on brake setups. I know a lot of folks like the st43. I went with ferroda 2500 all the way around on the X switched to rbf 600. I tried ferroda 2500 front and hawk rear on my nine and my balance was very off high speed braking. I am switching those prior to this event to the 2500 rears. If you don't have the chance to get with an instructor Saturday at least do the parade laps to get the layout in your head. I am a pretty good driver and be happy to have you ride around for a few laps at speed. If I can steal the keys to the X from my wife, or convince her to let you go with her. We are fitting the X with the 275/35/18 NT01 I ran on the 9 for two events. If needed there are a handful of local suppliers we use for brake fluids and brake pads, they can usually get what you need including safety gear within a few days.

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I go up to blood mountain/wolfpen gap a couple times a year. I also have done a few autocrosses. (not that mountain driving or autocross is comparable to tracking).
Thats what I was worried about running different pads front and rear. That when braking from high speeds the car would feel unstable.
That would be great. I would love to catch a lap with you guys.
If she is driving the X, what will you be driving?

Originally Posted by orthojoe

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket here, but you are thinking WAAAY too much into this for your first time out. The harsh reality is that you will not be anywhere near the limits of the car your first time. Just go and enjoy yourself.

Worry about fuel starvation once it happens. It won't happen your first time out, and likely not for a while. BTW, I go through 1/2 tank in a session at Thunderhill. 3.4mpg.

If you're not overheating your transmission, you are not even CLOSE to running hard, regardless of the track. SST will be the first 'issue' you run into once you get better. Until then, don't worry about it.

Thanks Joe. I agree completely. I have a tendency to do that with most things, just like being prepared for everything. I was never really concerned with fuel starvation problems until it was brought up. Im hoping the late November temperatures will prevent my SST from overheating.

Well I do need to worry about what Im going to do about gas. It looks like im not going to be able to bring enough e85 to last the whole day. Can't decide if I should just run 93 the whole day, or e85 until I run out then switch. The problem with that will be trying to run my tank as low as possible before switching...while on the track.

[youlose]

I will be driving my 9. What I meant about the mtns was I know the first time or two it does not feel comfortable but I'm sure you learned the limits quick up there. Getting out on the track I feel is similar, and the car feels right at home out there. I was not trying to cause you to over think or say you have to have this before you track, I like you asked someone who had done it before and short of saying enjoy yourself learn the line they gave me tips for tires, brakes etc. From exp. You will have an awesome time out there.

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[youlose]

Hope you had a good time out there. Was cool seeing a couple of Evos on the same track for once. We outnumbered the Subaru's lol. Hope to see you out there again soon.

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