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darkknight-x · 02-26-2013, 10:42 PM

So anyone have any data comparing the ams turbo kit to ets twin scroll gtx35 or hta35r on spool?

dnetcrawler · 02-26-2013, 10:46 PM

hotstix's 2.2/AMS 750R

I am waiting for the 1300 injectors to come out to retune mine with race gas, and get similar numbers.

Snakes709 · 02-26-2013, 11:12 PM

Whats the difference between .64 and .82 trim?

darkknight-x · 02-27-2013, 12:50 AM

I believe it is the turbine housing size .64 is smaller housing size it will spool a bit faster than .82 but will run out of breath top end because it doesn't flow enough air at top. On the other hand .82 is a bigger housing size it won't spool as fast as the .64. It has a decent spool and it would have stronger top end because of the bigger turbine housing. Correct me if I am wrong, still learning here too.

Snakes709 · 02-27-2013, 12:58 AM

I was thinking the same thing. I would like to see a dyno graph of power/spool compairing the two.

Jaydub514 · 02-27-2013, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KickAss

I would vote for a well tuned EF2 or EF2.5 or EF3 setup depending on spool vs power requirement in your build. With the 750 Kit, a downpipe isn't the only thing that needs to change. If you have an intake or UICP, those will need changing too.

For a stock block, I think the 750 will be under-utilized, even more so than an EF3, especially on E85. An EF2/2.5 tuned to its full potential by a good tuner is the way to go to keep cost and reliability in check and the power delivery enjoyable for a DD IMHO.

Thanks KickAss! This thread seemed to take over a life of its own, but I guess that's the norm around here. Personally not interested in any offerings besides the ones listed in the OP- but after thinking about it today the price and underutilization of the 750 kit may not be the smartest move if staying stock motor. Built and above, AMS all day. Looks like the EF series may edge it out in my situation.

betty2 · 02-27-2013, 01:46 AM

I was worried about spool with the .64 and I don't really know what the hell I was thinking.

jyamona · 02-27-2013, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709

I was thinking the same thing. I would like to see a dyno graph of power/spool compairing the two.

Hollywood_X did this housing swap and has results. It's in his lighter, faster, more bulletproof thread if you search on here.

KickAss · 02-27-2013, 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaydub514

Thanks KickAss! This thread seemed to take over a life of its own, but I guess that's the norm around here. Personally not interested in any offerings besides the ones listed in the OP- but after thinking about it today the price and underutilization of the 750 kit may not be the smartest move if staying stock motor. Built and above, AMS all day. Looks like the EF series may edge it out in my situation.

You are welcome

. Hope you make excellent numbers and tell us all about it.

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UT GG EVO X · 03-11-2013, 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betty2

I was worried about spool with the .64 and I don't really know what the hell I was thinking.

Do you have a boost plot? If not, when do you hit full boost in 3rd/4th gear?

02-26-2013, 11:12 PM	#33
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02-27-2013, 12:58 AM	#35
Snakes709 [Local Team Member] Join Date: Jul 2011 iTrader: (100) Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 4,305	I was thinking the same thing. I would like to see a dyno graph of power/spool compairing the two. __________________ 2011 EvoX GSR - AMS: SS Brake Lines, LICP w/ TiAL QR BOV, AEM Wideband and Boost Gauge, Tomei Expreme Exhaust, TWM STS w/ Cage Replacement, FIC 1100cc injectors, ETS 4" IC, 3port, Walbro 255lph, AEM FPR, Perrin RSB and Rear endlinks, SSP Underpanel, Enkei PF-01's, Varis Lip, AMS CMC, ACT HD 6 Puck and ACT Streetlite flywheel Build Thread

02-27-2013, 01:46 AM	#37
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02-26-2013, 10:42 PM	#31
darkknight-x Just Spooling Up Join Date: Nov 2010 iTrader: (0) Location: 559 Posts: 268	So anyone have any data comparing the ams turbo kit to ets twin scroll gtx35 or hta35r on spool?

02-27-2013, 12:50 AM	#34
darkknight-x Just Spooling Up Join Date: Nov 2010 iTrader: (0) Location: 559 Posts: 268	I believe it is the turbine housing size .64 is smaller housing size it will spool a bit faster than .82 but will run out of breath top end because it doesn't flow enough air at top. On the other hand .82 is a bigger housing size it won't spool as fast as the .64. It has a decent spool and it would have stronger top end because of the bigger turbine housing. Correct me if I am wrong, still learning here too.

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