AMS 2.4 stroker - EvoXForums.com

Snakes709 · 01-02-2013, 10:07 PM

Ok so originally i was going to go with 2.2L stroker with the manley 94mm crankshaft and keep stock sleeves. After reading many many and many more threads, its probably a good idea to sleeve it. I was gonna order the parts in and have a local shop that hasnt worked on a Evo before but has done other imports, build it. After adding in the cost of parts + labour it almost comes to the price of the AMS 2.4 stroker.

I'm currently in the process of being sposnored by Sean from DSG, just working out the fine details. The car will be set up for time attack but still remain street legal so i dont have to tow it to other events.

I really wanna stick to stock frame turbo so im still going with a BB FP Black with a small goal of 500hp 400trq, full spool by ~4000rpm.

So just to make things clear so people dont ask why dont i just bore it out to a 2.2L. I planned on going with a stroker from the start and already sold my oem crankshaft. So im defently commited to a stroker..lol.

Has anyone gone with this kit? I looked through the build threads and found a few but not really the turbo setup and fuel (im sticking with 91 octane, no race gas and we dont have e85 in canada)

The parts list is as follows...

AMS 2.4 stroker
9:5:1 compression
Tomei 260/250 cams (already got them)
Supertech valves (most likely 1mm overbore)
Supertech valve springs
APR Main Studs (already got them)
APR Head Studs
BB FP Black
New oil pump
New oil pan
Mishimoto Oil Dual oil cooler
AMS A/C Delete
AMS Lightweight Battery
AMS Front crossmember
AWD Motorsports lightweight driveshaft
Girodisc 2 piece rotors
track pads (havent decided what brand)
And probably a few other things

So what do you guys think. Our road courses here are pretty tight so not alot of room for top speed hence why i want to go with the black and only go with 500hp.

mac11wildcat · 01-02-2013, 10:10 PM

If you're concerned about spool then why the black? If you aren't worried about out flowing the turbo because you won't be usin the top end why go big?

I'm by no means an expert. Does the 2.4 flow too much for the red?

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betty2 · 01-02-2013, 10:21 PM

I think your doing the right thing by going with sleeves. There is nothing worse than thinking your driving around on borrowed time.

You could get that spool out of a 750xp kit and make more power than a black and once you start adding up exhaust mani, downpipe, 3.5" intake etc, the price doesn't see too bad.

mac11wildcat · 01-02-2013, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by betty2

I think your doing the right thing by going with sleeves. There is nothing worse than thinking your driving around on borrowed time.

You could get that spool out of a 750xp kit and make more power than a black and once you start adding up exhaust mani, downpipe, 3.5" intake etc, the price doesn't see too bad.

The 750xp is an expensive kit. That's $6k said and done? A stock frame is WAY cheaper.

But I agree about the sleeves.

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HPEVOX · 01-02-2013, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mac11wildcat

If you're concerned about spool then why the black? If you aren't worried about out flowing the turbo because you won't be usin the top end why go big?

I'm by no means an expert. Does the 2.4 flow too much for the red?

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Snakes709 · 01-02-2013, 10:43 PM

I want to stick with the black also for cost. I can get a black for $1800. Also its to much shit to change for the 750xp, even though the parts come with the kit, then my ported stock manifold, aluminum valve cover, AMS DP and part of the intake/uicp part are changed. Just much easier to stick to stock frame. I doubt ill be able to make 500hp on a Red so thats why i want to go black. Also if i decide to go for more power down the road there will still be room in the black. As well as if i can get quicker then 4000rpm for spool, that would be great.

InfantryMP · 01-02-2013, 10:46 PM

Dnetcrawler I think went with the same setup IIRC...I would hit him up man honestly.

Snakes709 · 01-02-2013, 10:48 PM

Sweet thanks. Also will my Walbro 255lph and FIC 1100cc injectors be good enough? I know for 500hp they are but not sure if changing to a 2.4 will matter.

InfantryMP · 01-02-2013, 10:51 PM

Honestly I would think you would need a little more, but again I am not a tuner. I am sure one would chime in here.

ThxMommy · 01-02-2013, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snakes709

Sweet thanks. Also will my Walbro 255lph and FIC 1100cc injectors be good enough? I know for 500hp they are but not sure if changing to a 2.4 will matter.

i feel like you may need some larger injectors and id go with a larger pump...have you thought of a sick surge tank setup?

also what fuel 93

i didnt read most of the thread so sorry if you answered these questions already

01-02-2013, 10:07 PM	#1
Snakes709 [Local Team Member] Join Date: Jul 2011 iTrader: (100) Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 4,357	AMS 2.4 stroker Ok so originally i was going to go with 2.2L stroker with the manley 94mm crankshaft and keep stock sleeves. After reading many many and many more threads, its probably a good idea to sleeve it. I was gonna order the parts in and have a local shop that hasnt worked on a Evo before but has done other imports, build it. After adding in the cost of parts + labour it almost comes to the price of the AMS 2.4 stroker. I'm currently in the process of being sposnored by Sean from DSG, just working out the fine details. The car will be set up for time attack but still remain street legal so i dont have to tow it to other events. I really wanna stick to stock frame turbo so im still going with a BB FP Black with a small goal of 500hp 400trq, full spool by ~4000rpm. So just to make things clear so people dont ask why dont i just bore it out to a 2.2L. I planned on going with a stroker from the start and already sold my oem crankshaft. So im defently commited to a stroker..lol. Has anyone gone with this kit? I looked through the build threads and found a few but not really the turbo setup and fuel (im sticking with 91 octane, no race gas and we dont have e85 in canada) The parts list is as follows... AMS 2.4 stroker 9:5:1 compression Tomei 260/250 cams (already got them) Supertech valves (most likely 1mm overbore) Supertech valve springs APR Main Studs (already got them) APR Head Studs BB FP Black New oil pump New oil pan Mishimoto Oil Dual oil cooler AMS A/C Delete AMS Lightweight Battery AMS Front crossmember AWD Motorsports lightweight driveshaft Girodisc 2 piece rotors track pads (havent decided what brand) And probably a few other things So what do you guys think. Our road courses here are pretty tight so not alot of room for top speed hence why i want to go with the black and only go with 500hp. __________________ 2011 EvoX GSR - AMS: SS Brake Lines, LICP w/ TiAL QR BOV, AEM Wideband and Boost Gauge, Tomei Expreme Exhaust, TWM STS w/ Cage Replacement, FIC 1100cc injectors, ETS 4" IC, 3port, Walbro 255lph, AEM FPR, Perrin RSB and Rear endlinks, SSP Underpanel, Enkei PF-01's, Varis Lip, AMS CMC, ACT HD 6 Puck and ACT Streetlite flywheel Build Thread

01-02-2013, 10:10 PM	#2
mac11wildcat [Local Team Member] Join Date: Aug 2012 iTrader: (0) Location: Wilmington, MA Posts: 4,908	If you're concerned about spool then why the black? If you aren't worried about out flowing the turbo because you won't be usin the top end why go big? I'm by no means an expert. Does the 2.4 flow too much for the red? Sent from my iPhone using AutoGuide.com App __________________ TWM\|Torque\|Works\|AMS\|HKS\|Lou's\|Grimspeed\|UR\|SSP\|TiaL\|Tomei

01-02-2013, 10:21 PM	#3
betty2 Just Spooling Up Join Date: Oct 2011 iTrader: (0) Location: The arm pit of western nc. Posts: 332	I think your doing the right thing by going with sleeves. There is nothing worse than thinking your driving around on borrowed time. You could get that spool out of a 750xp kit and make more power than a black and once you start adding up exhaust mani, downpipe, 3.5" intake etc, the price doesn't see too bad. __________________ 2010 EVO X SE AMS 750r .64 housing open dump AMS Intercooler AMS Transcooler Kelford B cams and springs AMS 2.2 Shortblock Dodson Motorsports Clubman Clutch Kit ID1000 DW265 With STM fuel pump rewire AMS Regulator kit AMS Fuel rail Synapse DV Kozmic Tuned Coltspeed GT Shifter Flossy heavyweight Blox Racing front engine mount Zeitronix wideband boost TopSpeed pro 1 UR mini muffler Kozmic motorsports breather catch can setup STM small battery kit

01-02-2013, 10:43 PM	#6
Snakes709 [Local Team Member] Join Date: Jul 2011 iTrader: (100) Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 4,357	I want to stick with the black also for cost. I can get a black for $1800. Also its to much shit to change for the 750xp, even though the parts come with the kit, then my ported stock manifold, aluminum valve cover, AMS DP and part of the intake/uicp part are changed. Just much easier to stick to stock frame. I doubt ill be able to make 500hp on a Red so thats why i want to go black. Also if i decide to go for more power down the road there will still be room in the black. As well as if i can get quicker then 4000rpm for spool, that would be great. __________________ 2011 EvoX GSR - AMS: SS Brake Lines, LICP w/ TiAL QR BOV, AEM Wideband and Boost Gauge, Tomei Expreme Exhaust, TWM STS w/ Cage Replacement, FIC 1100cc injectors, ETS 4" IC, 3port, Walbro 255lph, AEM FPR, Perrin RSB and Rear endlinks, SSP Underpanel, Enkei PF-01's, Varis Lip, AMS CMC, ACT HD 6 Puck and ACT Streetlite flywheel Build Thread

01-02-2013, 10:46 PM	#7
InfantryMP [Global Mod] [Local Team Member] Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (100) Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 4,967	Dnetcrawler I think went with the same setup IIRC...I would hit him up man honestly. __________________ EMPIRE EVOLUTION SPONSORED BY: Rickerman Tuned 93 oct 355whp. Rickerman Tuned E85 381whp.

01-02-2013, 10:48 PM	#8
Snakes709 [Local Team Member] Join Date: Jul 2011 iTrader: (100) Location: Edmonton, AB Posts: 4,357	Sweet thanks. Also will my Walbro 255lph and FIC 1100cc injectors be good enough? I know for 500hp they are but not sure if changing to a 2.4 will matter. __________________ 2011 EvoX GSR - AMS: SS Brake Lines, LICP w/ TiAL QR BOV, AEM Wideband and Boost Gauge, Tomei Expreme Exhaust, TWM STS w/ Cage Replacement, FIC 1100cc injectors, ETS 4" IC, 3port, Walbro 255lph, AEM FPR, Perrin RSB and Rear endlinks, SSP Underpanel, Enkei PF-01's, Varis Lip, AMS CMC, ACT HD 6 Puck and ACT Streetlite flywheel Build Thread

01-02-2013, 10:51 PM	#9
InfantryMP [Global Mod] [Local Team Member] Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (100) Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 4,967	Honestly I would think you would need a little more, but again I am not a tuner. I am sure one would chime in here. __________________ EMPIRE EVOLUTION SPONSORED BY: Rickerman Tuned 93 oct 355whp. Rickerman Tuned E85 381whp.

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