It looks like it would be ok for some data logging but you'd still need a wideband if you're going to get it tuned. I think a boost gauge you can monitor while driving is a good idea too.
[Android app] Torque Pro + Bluetooth OBD2
So after doing some research, I realized I don't want to get into the spending lots of money aspect of buying different gauges for my car. So after some research, I decided to try out Torque Pro for Android OS and the BARF ELM 327 Bluetooth OBD2 adapter from Amazon. I am currently waiting for the BT OBD2 to be shipped from Amazon; it will be here Tuesday. Once I'm up and running, I'll be sure to post back results and pictures of the configuration. I will be running the app on my Motorola Droid RAZR on respective car dock.
The application interface seems nice and very customizable. There are plugins such as for taking video and overlaying gauges automatically. There is a free version to try, but I think it's more to see the app, rather than use it functionally.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en - $4.95
http://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Bluetooth-diagnostics-compatible/dp/B005NLQAHS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329683797&sr=1-1 - $21.49
Anyone running this type of setup? Comments/concerns?
The application interface seems nice and very customizable. There are plugins such as for taking video and overlaying gauges automatically. There is a free version to try, but I think it's more to see the app, rather than use it functionally.
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.prowl.torque&hl=en - $4.95
http://www.amazon.com/BAFX-Products-Bluetooth-diagnostics-compatible/dp/B005NLQAHS/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1329683797&sr=1-1 - $21.49
Anyone running this type of setup? Comments/concerns?
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I would never trust a phones processor for logging. I'd rather have the benefit of doubt and use something that could keep up with all the parameters checked. Who's to say all the addresses will be correct for the X anyways? I'll be VERY surprised if it can successfully read boost and knock count.
Let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
Let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
I respectfully disagree. The EvoScan GPS uses a 200 or 400 Mhz TI OMAP processor on Windows ce 5. The new android phones are dual core 1.5 GHz processors. The processor aspect is actually better on modern phones.I would never trust a phones processor for logging. I'd rather have the benefit of doubt and use something that could keep up with all the parameters checked. Who's to say all the addresses will be correct for the X anyways? I'll be VERY surprised if it can successfully read boost and knock count.
Let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
It can read boost correctly. But no knock count unless ECU is flashed. Since mine isn't, can't confirm about knock.I would never trust a phones processor for logging. I'd rather have the benefit of doubt and use something that could keep up with all the parameters checked. Who's to say all the addresses will be correct for the X anyways? I'll be VERY surprised if it can successfully read boost and knock count.
Let us know how it turns out. Good luck.
But I can say that it's a nice piece of software!
Yes, I have the Evoscan GPS nav and it misses A LOT of valuable info due to the slow processing. I only use it to really monitor my fuel trims because of this. It's slow. I compared it with another laptop and also with Tephra's knock count warning via the SES light.I respectfully disagree. The EvoScan GPS uses a 200 or 400 Mhz TI OMAP processor on Windows ce 5. The new android phones are dual core 1.5 GHz processors. The processor aspect is actually better on modern phones.
I had it before. Was pretty good but boost was not always accurate. Got the job done tho. After I decided on buying AEM gauges because it drained my battery on my phone.
Only the latest phones are dual-core and even then, you're not really getting the full benefit of the CPU since it is also running the phone's other processes. Most phones are still single core and it's even worse in that case. At least the EvoScan's CPU is dedicated to one purpose, if i understand correctly.I respectfully disagree. The EvoScan GPS uses a 200 or 400 Mhz TI OMAP processor on Windows ce 5. The new android phones are dual core 1.5 GHz processors. The processor aspect is actually better on modern phones.
As long as my phone is hooked up to my dock and its plugged in battery should be good. Hopefully it'll work as advertised. Having this app running on a Droid RAZR should be a hood experience IMO. This phone is pretty quick. 
As long as my phone is hooked up to my dock and its plugged in battery should be good. Hopefully it'll work as advertised. Having this app running on a Droid RAZR should be a hood experience IMO. This phone is pretty quick.
You should be good then as long as its plugged I have a droid x and car charger is crap didn't reach far enough to where I wanted it.
Were you trying to mount to the left of the steering wheel on the windshield? I tried that and it reached, but it didn't look very pretty and got in the way of the steering wheel.You should be good then as long as its plugged I have a droid x and car charger is crap didn't reach far enough to where I wanted it.
I was trying to mount it dead smack in the middle of the gauge cluster. Its a good app especially for the price and lets you read codes.
You're probably not gonna be able to log everything that's available to the Cobb AP or Evoscan... boost is probably the best thing you'll be able to log with it. It is cool that you can check your inspection readyness with it though.
Can you read knock with this? Like, I was reading, you need to know the name of it, maybe one of the people familar with the tuning softwares can tell us what PID/Name to use?
I have been using the free version of torque. I use it to clear codes mainly.
I'm looking at the availabe parameters now and I don't see knock. Below are some of the options, I CANNOT CONFIRM IF THEY WORK OR NOT.
Acceleration Sensor
Trip
Altitude
Ambient Air Temp
Barometric Pressure
Engine Coolant Temp
Engine Load
RPM
Fuel Level
Fuel Trim (Multiple sensors)
Intake Air Temp
Intake Manifold Pressure
MPG (Plus a buch of Kilometer averages)
Mass Air Flow Rate
o2 Volts (Multiple Sensors)
Speed (GPS)
Speed (OBD)
Throttle Position
Timing Adv
Trip
Boost Gauge
Voltage
Ok, so that is pretty much all that is available with the free program. I'm not sure what else you get with the paid version.
I think the limiting factor here as far as logging is the program itself. I can't see the cobb AP having anywhere near a ghz processor. Sure, the phone has more programs running but I would bet it still can handle the data better than the cobb. But the software has to be written for that. Which I doubt it is.
If may be worth our effort to contact them and see if we could get them to work on some things for us. Since the ECU verision doesn't seem to be happening.
I'm looking at the availabe parameters now and I don't see knock. Below are some of the options, I CANNOT CONFIRM IF THEY WORK OR NOT.
Acceleration Sensor
Trip
Altitude
Ambient Air Temp
Barometric Pressure
Engine Coolant Temp
Engine Load
RPM
Fuel Level
Fuel Trim (Multiple sensors)
Intake Air Temp
Intake Manifold Pressure
MPG (Plus a buch of Kilometer averages)
Mass Air Flow Rate
o2 Volts (Multiple Sensors)
Speed (GPS)
Speed (OBD)
Throttle Position
Timing Adv
Trip
Boost Gauge
Voltage
Ok, so that is pretty much all that is available with the free program. I'm not sure what else you get with the paid version.
I think the limiting factor here as far as logging is the program itself. I can't see the cobb AP having anywhere near a ghz processor. Sure, the phone has more programs running but I would bet it still can handle the data better than the cobb. But the software has to be written for that. Which I doubt it is.
If may be worth our effort to contact them and see if we could get them to work on some things for us. Since the ECU verision doesn't seem to be happening.
Subscribing, anxious to see how you like it, might pick it up just for fun.
my bluetooth dongle should be delivered today, and I bought the full app. I was reading that the app has a set of default options that it can check, but you can "MANUALLY" add additional things such as "KNOCK" if you know the name of it in the ecu. You need the PID, and you can enter the PID, and it will read what ever that PID is related too. Anyone familar with PID's for the Evo X? I figure this is the solution?
Also, there is a add-in for torque called torquescan, and its supose to scan for pids.
Also, there is a add-in for torque called torquescan, and its supose to scan for pids.
Try PMing Tephra on evolutionm.net. He might be able to get the actual names.my bluetooth dongle should be delivered today, and I bought the full app. I was reading that the app has a set of default options that it can check, but you can "MANUALLY" add additional things such as "KNOCK" if you know the name of it in the ecu. You need the PID, and you can enter the PID, and it will read what ever that PID is related too. Anyone familar with PID's for the Evo X? I figure this is the solution?
Also, there is a add-in for torque called torquescan, and its supose to scan for pids.
doneTry PMing Tephra on evolutionm.net. He might be able to get the actual names.
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