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Subaru's new Impreza WRX STI is still fast, but more civilized.
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By JONATHAN WONG

One day after the world debut of the 2008 Impreza WRX STI at the Tokyo motor show ("Green Is for Grass," AW, Nov. 12), Subaru provided an opportunity to sample the all-new car on Fuji Speedway.

Though our exposure was limited to right-hand-drive, 2.0-liter, 295-hp Japanese-domestic-market cars (a U.S.-spec drive is imminent), it's safe to say that the new car is far more civilized than its thunderous predecessor.

At speed, the ride is quiet, but comfort comes at a price: The first turn revealed body roll we never would have expected from the performance flagship. Engine power remains fierce, with the turbo H4 revving smoothly to the 8000-rpm redline. Steering is nicely weighted and responsive, and the Brembo brakes are as impressive as the acceleration.

Adding ride comfort is Subaru's ploy to expand the STI's market--the same strategy Mitsubishi is employing with its all-new Evolution ("Giant Leap Forward," AW, Oct. 1). However, performance is still the priority, and Subaru is adamant that the new model one-ups its predecessor with a new multimode center differential and dynamic control technologies.

It took a few laps around Fuji before we found ourselves nodding in agreement, noticing a touch more grip as the aforementioned systems came into play. The adjustable center differential has three preset modes and a six-option manual mode to control the level of rear bias, with the most severe setting sending 70 percent of power to the back. Dynamic controls have three settings, including a mode that sustains power even when intentionally drifting the car. Together, the systems provide a high level of control no matter how hard the car is driven.

The STI hits U.S. showrooms in January with a 2.5-liter turbocharged boxer with a slight power advantage. The Recaro seats we enjoyed in Japan won't be offered stateside--they're incompatible with required U.S. airbag sensors. Look for complete details and driving impressions of the U.S. model in an upcoming issue.


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ON SALE: Now (Japan), January 2008 (United States)

BASE PRICE: $34,900

DRIVETRAIN: 295-hp, 299-lb-ft, 2.0-liter turbocharged H4; awd, six-speed manual

CURB WEIGHT: 3263 lb

0-60 MPH: 4.9 sec (mfr)

FUEL ECONOMY (JAPAN): 25 mpg
 

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I think both Mitsubishi and Subaru have done similar things to expand both their market shares by broadening the appeal of their performance sedans (sorry Subie fans, you get a wagon). Any driving enthusiast unhappy with body roll can fix it, no? I think both cars are looking softer than their predecessors.
 

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I'm sure they are trying to reach a different demographic but those who buy the STi for performance and what not might may see this as a major let-down. I can see where they are going trying to get the families invloved but Christ.

When you think STi you think "College kids wanting go-fast" you think "Performance" you think "Sedan." Then they come out with this wagon of poop. The STi looks like a scared little kid compared to the Evo X. It's like "I WANT TO--oh snap, how are the groceries?"

WHY?!
 

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I'm sure they are trying to reach a different demographic but those who buy the STi for performance and what not might may see this as a major let-down. I can see where they are going trying to get the families invloved but Christ.

When you think STi you think "College kids wanting go-fast" you think "Performance" you think "Sedan." Then they come out with this wagon of poop. The STi looks like a scared little kid compared to the Evo X. It's like "I WANT TO--oh snap, how are the groceries?"

WHY?!
This is really funny to me, but I think you are spot on. Why is it funny? I'm in their expanded demographic, 35 (no boy racer), married, have a two year old boy with another on the way next April. I do not want car seats in my car, those will hopefully stay in the Escape Hybrid which I plan to keep, but the option is always there, and I will be picking up groceries regularly (I do most of the grocery shopping). So really, for me, the STI could be the perfect combination of performance and practicality. Then again, I may wimp out and get a WRX (yuck). Or I may decide on the Evo X GSR (my deposit is still sitting with the Mitsu dealer waiting for me to make a decision).
 

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This is really funny to me, but I think you are spot on. Why is it funny? I'm in their expanded demographic, 35 (no boy racer), married, have a two year old boy with another on the way next April. I do not want car seats in my car, those will hopefully stay in the Escape Hybrid which I plan to keep, but the option is always there, and I will be picking up groceries regularly (I do most of the grocery shopping). So really, for me, the STI could be the perfect combination of performance and practicality. Then again, I may wimp out and get a WRX (yuck). Or I may decide on the Evo X GSR (my deposit is still sitting with the Mitsu dealer waiting for me to make a decision).
I don't see how the Evo wouldn't be practical. It seems to be roomy, no? I think you'd be able to fit more than enough groceries in the back seats of your high-powered rawr-mobile. :p

I would chose the Evo X GSR over the new Subaru's any day.
 

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I don't see how the Evo wouldn't be practical. It seems to be roomy, no? I think you'd be able to fit more than enough groceries in the back seats of your high-powered rawr-mobile. :p

I would chose the Evo X GSR over the new Subaru's any day.
Maybe I should show up at the Vancouver Mitsubishi showroom with a stroller, a load of groceries, a box of diapers, a 24 pack of double roll toilet paper, etc., and see if she all fits!

I watched a review of compact cars at DrivingTelevision.ca and I was surprised that all the cars could fit their luggage test, plus a stroller! I'm sure the GSR will be OK in this regard.
 

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US spec STI makes 302 HP at 6,500 RPM.

Body roll, why? I guess they soften up the suspension.

I don't remember people complained about EVO X having much body roll...

Well, I guess the current trend of the automotive industry is to soften things up.
 

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Maybe I should show up at the Vancouver Mitsubishi showroom with a stroller, a load of groceries, a box of diapers, a 24 pack of double roll toilet paper, etc., and see if she all fits!

I watched a review of compact cars at DrivingTelevision.ca and I was surprised that all the cars could fit their luggage test, plus a stroller! I'm sure the GSR will be OK in this regard.
So the Lancer and the Evo will have the same space, right? The Lancer has 328 litres in the trunk and the seats do not split or fold down. Yes, it can hold a set of luggage and a stroller (http://www.drivingtelevision.ca/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=536) but without being able to fold down the rear seat(s) (http://www.drivingtelevision.ca/CarReviewVideos.php?ccID=539) this limits the size of stuff I could potentially carry. So less practical than the STI hatch.
 

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Actually, with the battery in the trunk, the Evo will have less space than the regular Lancer. Based on my eyeballing when I saw the car, the Evo trunk is probably not enough to fit the largest hard case suitcases.
 

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Actually, with the battery in the trunk, the Evo will have less space than the regular Lancer. Based on my eyeballing when I saw the car, the Evo trunk is probably not enough to fit the largest hard case suitcases.
DOH! Another category goes to the STI.
 
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