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Canada softening rules on bumper safety, should soon enable Canadians to import Evolution models from the US.

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/story.html?id=66696752-771e-46c8-94f8-92a26d5f936f&k=45014

Ottawa putting a dent in bumper safety, say critics

David Akin, Canwest News Service
Published: Thursday, April 03, 2008

The federal government moved Thursday to bring some safety rules for bumpers on cars in line with those in the U.S., a tiny adjustment that could have a big bottom-line impact for car makers and broaden the choices for Canadian consumers.

But the Canadian Automobile Association worries that the new, less-stringent rules could make cars more susceptible to damage and that, in turn, could make repair bills more frequent and raise insurance premiums.

"You have to wonder . . . will cars have more damage done to them, therefore will there be more repair costs and will your insurance rates go up?" asked Eamonn Horan-Lunney of the Canadian Automobile Association.

The insurance industry is not yet sure how - or even whether - premiums will change. The Insurance Bureau of Canada agrees that the move to the U.S. standard for car bumpers has the potential to increase the frequency of cars going in for repair, but it could also reduce the frequency and severity of pedestrian injuries. That's because Canadian bumpers, like those in the U.S., will now be "softer", that is, they will absorb more of the blow should a vehicle strike a pedestrian at a low rate of speed.

And as far as insurers are concerned, injuries to humans are a much more expensive problem than dings on bumpers.

"It's a little bit of a zero-sum game. You lose one but you (have) the potential to gain on the other," said Robert Tremblay, director of road safety at the Insurance Bureau of Canada.

Liberal MP Joe Volpe, his party's Transport critic, said Canada should not move down to the U.S. safety standard. Instead, the U.S. should move up to the Canadian standard.

"Canadian governments always have subscribed to a higher standard of safety and that's pushed the envelope quite a bit," Volpe said.

Volpe noted that Ontario alone wields significant manufacturing clout. More cars and light trucks are manufactured in that province than in any other province or U.S. state, including Michigan.

Car makers, though, cheered the move, seeing it as part of a broader push to harmonize business rules and regulations to help ease an economic slowdown.

"It's a real positive step," said Mark Nantais, president of the Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers Association. "Working with Transport Canada for a long time now to remove (this) tyranny of small differences."

Car makers say the differences between Canadian and U.S. auto standards costs them millions every year in design and manufacturing costs.

The change announced Thursday seems, on the surface, to be a minor matter. Bumpers on cars sold in Canada will now have to pass a four-km/h front and rear crash test - that's the U.S. standard - instead of an eight-km/h test. For corner impacts, the crash test standard moves from 4.8 km/h to 2.4 km/h.

So far as car buyers are concerned, the move by Transport Canada to harmonize bumper requirements means some cars made for the U.S. and European markets may now be eligible for sale in Canada, said Horan-Lunney. And those Canadians who go shopping for an auto bargain south of the border will also have less to worry about when they try to bring cars back to Canada.

Canadians importing a car pay only a small fee to bring U.S.-bought vehicles here, regardless of the sale price, but the vehicle must meet all existing Canadian safety requirements. The different standard for the bumper safety test meant that many vehicles sold in the U.S. could not be imported unless the consumer paid to install Canadian-certified bumpers.
 

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That's awesome

Now you only have to deal with the fact that Mitsubishi Canada won't warranty Mitsubishi US cars. Good times.

I have a $2500 deposit for a MR that's always being delayed. Looks like i'll be getting my deposit back and saving a ton of cash by buying in the US.

Just have to check how warranty work is done.
 

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Is this official? Can I hop over to the US and pick up an Evo 8 or 9 now????:rock:
 

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This is all too little to late for the current generation of evo X's. It's not even passed yet. Anyone buying an X in Canada now will still have to deal with the bumper-addon and the extra $10,000 over US Evo prices.
I'm in the group of people who would pay for the car regardless of cost. Those who wouldn't though will have to suffer.
Yungstar I don't believe this has been passed yet so probably not to your question.
 

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This is all too little to late for the current generation of evo X's. It's not even passed yet. Anyone buying an X in Canada now will still have to deal with the bumper-addon and the extra $10,000 over US Evo prices.
I'm in the group of people who would pay for the car regardless of cost. Those who wouldn't though will have to suffer.
Yungstar I don't believe this has been passed yet so probably not to your question.
What do you mean bumper add-on? Doesn't the new standard mean that no bumper modifications would be required at all?

Does Mitsu Canada not warranty US cars?
 

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What do you mean bumper add-on? Doesn't the new standard mean that no bumper modifications would be required at all?

Does Mitsu Canada not warranty US cars?
Take a look at the rear bumpers of Canadian Evo X's and US Evo X's. We have a nice little add-on. That was for the existing regulation, to ensure that the bumpers can handle additional speed without additional repair expense.

To your last point, no, they are separate companies in different countries and do not HAVE to cover warranties. All car companies are like this. They can deny warranty. However, there are steps to take to get warranty coverage. For example, car companies typically have a way for you to transfer your warranty along with the car if you move from one country to another. You have to be able to show you lived in the country in which you purchased the car, and that you have now moved with your car to another country, e.g., when my wife and I moved from Canada to the US for a couple years we transferred my wife's Honda's warranty to the US. Then we got the friggin' transmission fixed.

Also, different car companies have different rules. Some have said that before a certain year that new or used car warranties are transferable, but after a certain year they are not. That is what Subaru did recently 2007 and prior are transferrable, 2008+ are not.

Need to do a LOT of research before you think about doing this, or pay someone else, like an auto importer, to do it for you. Be sure to have all your questions answered up front before you give the go ahead.
 

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Take a look at the rear bumpers of Canadian Evo X's and US Evo X's. We have a nice little add-on. That was for the existing regulation, to ensure that the bumpers can handle additional speed without additional repair expense.

To your last point, no, they are separate companies in different countries and do not HAVE to cover warranties. All car companies are like this. They can deny warranty. However, there are steps to take to get warranty coverage. For example, car companies typically have a way for you to transfer your warranty along with the car if you move from one country to another. You have to be able to show you lived in the country in which you purchased the car, and that you have now moved with your car to another country, e.g., when my wife and I moved from Canada to the US for a couple years we transferred my wife's Honda's warranty to the US. Then we got the friggin' transmission fixed.

Also, different car companies have different rules. Some have said that before a certain year that new or used car warranties are transferable, but after a certain year they are not. That is what Subaru did recently 2007 and prior are transferrable, 2008+ are not.

Need to do a LOT of research before you think about doing this, or pay someone else, like an auto importer, to do it for you. Be sure to have all your questions answered up front before you give the go ahead.
I am aware that the bumpers are different on the Canadian Evos, but with the regulation changing it makes sense that we would not need the Canadian bumpers anymore. It just wouldn't make sense to have the regulation laxed to meet US standards and to have 8 km/hr bumpers installed.

I have imported a car from the states before...I imported my C5 Z06. It would be pretty weak if Mitsu won't cover US cars under warranty. Most companies do. I am beginning to think Mitsubishi is a BS company.

If I do go for the EVO, it will only be if I can import one. There is just no way I am going to take a 10k hit for nothing.
 

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I am aware that the bumpers are different on the Canadian Evos, but with the regulation changing it makes sense that we would not need the Canadian bumpers anymore. It just wouldn't make sense to have the regulation laxed to meet US standards and to have 8 km/hr bumpers installed.

I have imported a car from the states before...I imported my C5 Z06. It would be pretty weak if Mitsu won't cover US cars under warranty. Most companies do. I am beginning to think Mitsubishi is a BS company.

If I do go for the EVO, it will only be if I can import one. There is just no way I am going to take a 10k hit for nothing.
Problem is that the cars are pretty much made or are in production. They ain't gonna change on the spot just cause the regs are changed. We also don't know when this is all gonna happen.

If you are going to import then you don't care what happens to Canadian spec Evos.

I think Mitsu is no different from all the other companies. They are trying to protect the premiums they are getting by selling in Canada. I don't agree with their tactics and would like to see less restrictions on imported cars.
 

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I live less than 5km. to the US border so I could always take it to a US dealer, unless my Can. address would somehow void it. This won't work for most Canadians.
There may be different terms for the warranties in each country, which would also help explain why they wouldn't cover, apart from greed. Certain manufacturers are working harder to protect their high margins in Canada. Boo and hiss to them.
I appreciate the one's that will honour the warranty, part of the reason why I imported a 911.
 
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