Double post ftlwhile your in there why not knock it out you know cause going from the top taking the downpipe out is easier than going from the bottom.
most swap the downpipe not so much for power but for spool effect
Lol.....while your in there why not knock it out you know cause going from the top taking the downpipe out is easier than going from the bottom.
most swap the downpipe not so much for power but for spool effect
Even with just the short downpipe only?while your in there why not knock it out you know cause going from the top taking the downpipe out is easier than going from the bottom.
most swap the downpipe not so much for power but for spool effect
?? are you driving a Ralliart or what?? what do you mean by X-turbo swap?I'm getting a bunch of things installed this coming Wednesday, but I have a questions in regards to the downpipe.
I bought a new UR short downpipe and a Depo 200-cell HFC, both of which have the wideband bungs welded. I currently have a 2.75" Borla catback installed with the OEM DP and cat. I know I will definitely be replacing the cat, but I'm starting to wonder if using a bigger downpipe on the stock turbo is really worth it. I'm still unsure if I will go the X-turbo swap or the RAD turbo in the future. If I go with the X swap then the entire downpipe setup would need to be changed out anyway, and I'm thinking that going with the RAD would be best with a full long downpipe to get the most out of it.
I'd like some opinions on this, if it's not really worth it to install a new DP only for minimal gain, than I won't bother. I do plan on flashing the V2.7 TBE basemap and it said that a DP was ok but not necessary, just a HFC/test pipe with a catback would do.
That's what I'm thinking... If I upgrade to the RAD turbo from CBRD, I'd benefit from the full long downpipe. If I decide to go with a X-swap, then I'd have to get a full X downpipe anyway.downpipe on stock turbo is basically the worst $/whp mod out there based on my research and talking with different tuners...if you are staying on stock turbo, might as well leave the stock dp so that when you have to go to the dealer for service/warranty work one less thing to take off...I personally have a shorty dp and although it might help with spool some, I am not sure it is truly worth having the trouble of taking it on and off if warranty work is needed...my dealer was cool with it though so haven't run into that issue...if you got it already just throw it on but don't expect much...GL!
Sorry, I simply copied and pasted from another site I posted this on, I did not specify which car I had.:duh:?? are you driving a Ralliart or what?? what do you mean by X-turbo swap?
Just seen you drive a ralliart, all makes sense now
you will only see minimal gains with a DP, don't expect massive figures, when you start changing the pipe work it gets expensive in comparison to the gains you get.
( asking 375 shipped ) 
I don't understand this mentality with RA owners. They still like the RAD because it's a cheaper and easier turbo upgrade, but they want to spend the money on other mods that make hardly any power - nullifying the whole budget aspect of the RAD.That's what I'm thinking... If I upgrade to the RAD turbo from CBRD, I'd benefit from the full long downpipe. If I decide to go with a X-swap, then I'd have to get a full X downpipe anyway.
Lol.I don't understand this mentality with RA owners. They still like the RAD because it's a cheaper and easier turbo upgrade, but they want to spend the money on other mods that make hardly any power - nullifying the whole budget aspect of the RAD.
it's just not worth it. I consider the DP part of the turbo - if your turbo flows a shit ton, get a better downpipe to prevent choking the flow. but even the stock Evo X turbo doesn't flow that much, let alone any puny TD04
I'm just throwing the option out there, doesn't mean I will go with the RAD setup. I was also making a point that either route would be more beneficial with a full downpipe, whether it's RA or X specific. I sure as hell am not buying a long downpipe for the stock unmodified TD04, so I just want to make sure my money is well spent. In this case, I'm starting to realize that it wasn't, just go with a HFC and catback, leave the downpipe alone.I don't understand this mentality with RA owners. They still like the RAD because it's a cheaper and easier turbo upgrade, but they want to spend the money on other mods that make hardly any power - nullifying the whole budget aspect of the RAD.
it's just not worth it. I consider the DP part of the turbo - if your turbo flows a shit ton, get a better downpipe to prevent choking the flow. but even the stock Evo X turbo doesn't flow that much, let alone any puny TD04
The stock Evo 10 turbo flows 42 lbs/minRAD TURBO flow rate is 36lbs a min. I believe the Stock EvoX turbo is 34lbs a min. I was sold on the RAD turbo after looking at the dyno comparisons from CBRD between the X swap and RAD upgrade. Im purchasing the RAD this week. Ill be installing my new X front mount and UR LICP on SAT. I cant wait to see the gains!
fftopic:RAD vs EVO X turbo is EVOM TALK NOT EVOXFORUMS TALK.
Turbo flow rates is on topic. I never said one turbo is better than the other.
back on topic!
