[Stark Industries]

To those with a harness set-up, which of 4/5/6 point harnesses are you guys using?

I like the Takata but um 350-400 for a harness... not up my alley.

Ill be using the car for a couple track days this year but its still on a street set up.

Are there any kinds of harnesses out there that are just complete crap?
(besides the obvious ebay knock offs)

Is there really a comfort/security difference between 2 and 3" wide harness straps?

Which buckles function best?

Is it necessary to get the longer harness when using the Sparco bar?
Does AMS still make their bar???

Thanks in advance.

 

[steelbahamut]

Im running a takata 6 point. If i could do it again id have gone with schroth, all the way. Have a look at the Scroth website, they do a good job answering most of your questions.

 

[Stark Industries]

hey thanks dude!:thumbup:

 

[4-D]

Shcroth 4pt right now, switching to a 5 soon, need the submarine strap.

 

[Stark Industries]

you guys using the stock recaros or aftermarket seats with these?

 

[JBAutosports]

Scroth Rally 4 with the ASM. Works very well with stock seats.

 

[Stark Industries]

Scroth Rally 4 with the ASM. Works very well with stock seats.

:thumbup:

And quite affordable! I will look into these, thanks!

 

[Eyler_Evo_X]

Shcroth 4pt right now, switching to a 5 soon, need the submarine strap.

Did you get a cage? If not, then you don't want a submarine strap...

Scroth Rally 4 with the ASM. Works very well with stock seats.

+1

Bradze used this and he was a track junkie. It's also an easy harness to remove when you're not at an HPDE.

 

[iLuveKetchup]

Scroth & Recaro. No need for anything else. Leave the Takatas & Bride seats for the hard parkers.

 

[steelbahamut]

If your not going to run a crotch strap, I think the schroth 4 point ASM is absolutely necessary. Ideally the right way to do it is to have an FIA approved seat, to run your FIA approved 5/6 point harness.

 

[Yxd68]

Until you have all the prooer safety equipment ot actually use (or need) a 5/6 point harness, just get a couple of these. They attach to the stock lap belt and make it snug - so it no longer slides. Easily removeable with no damage.

CG Lock:
http://www.cg-lock.com/autocross.html

 

[mindovaanything]

Are you guys running these harnesses without a harness bar and on the stock seats? If so how are you mounting them? Can we see some pics?

 

[DrivenFab]

Any harness without the use of a roll cage (or at least a roll bar) is a serious hazard risk. Think about it, you roll the car over and the roof collapses, with the stock seatbelt in place, you can get pushed down like a pretzel. With a harness and no roll cage, the roof is only gonna push your head down your spine. Thats not gonna feel good.

 

[DrivenFab]

Is that^ probably gonna happen? No, but it only takes once and its much better to be safe than sorry. I don't want to read any threads on here of people who are now paralyzed because of something that was supposed to keep them "safe". I ruv all of yew. <3

 

[steelbahamut]

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57237

Heres how I did it. Without a harness bar youd want to cross and run the shoulder straps to a reinforced point on the back shelf behind the upper rear seat back, NOT the seat belt mounting points on the bottom like everyone does. Then again I dont think its recommended to mount harnesses to anything other than a proper harness bar. The OEM seat also isnt designed to route harnesses properly. Id go with the CG lock and OEM seatbelts if your going to use stock seats and no harness bar.

 

[DrivenFab]

+1 for CG lock

 

[f1av8tnfan]

+1 for steelbahamut!

Also there have been cases of insurance companies not covering damages and injuries when the OEM safety equipment has been removed or altered.

 

[mindovaanything]

I don't plan to run a harness bar or harnesses, or a cage for a street car/weekend warrior. I think the cg lock and the stock seats will be more than enough for my needs and for safety.

I agree with leaving the bride/takata combos for the hard parkers.

I see a lot cages in street cars, isn't this also very unsafe? A low speed accident with no helmet on could turn into something very serious no?

For me I think it's either cage, fixed seat, harness and wearing a helmet or its recline-able seat, no harness, no cage, helmet optional. Based on my research everything in between really isn't safe. I could be wrong... discuss.

 

[Yxd68]

I see a lot cages in street cars, isn't this also very unsafe? A low speed accident with no helmet on could turn into something very serious no?

If ANY of the tubes are anywhere near the drivers body (including arms and legs) then YES, it's very dangerous for a street car.

If the car has bars that run along the inside roof line from front to rear, then it's totally unsafe without a helmet - at any speed.

 

[Stark Industries]

Ill be purchasing the harness mounting bar (sparco I guess since AMS stopped production?) with Schroth's

Anyone know if this is a gimmick or actually innovative functioning components?
http://www.schrothracing.com/store/Tuning/autocontrol/autocontrol-II