[Kooldino]

Am I the only one who can't decide between the 6 speed manual and the DSG-style transmission that will be available for the EVO X? I'm trying to weigh out the pros and cons.

I'm guessing the DSG style trans will cost more, but since this is Mitsubishi's first crack at a DSG style gearbox, will it be as reliable as a classic 6 speed manual? Will it really perform that much better? Will you have to sacrifice some control with such a transmission? Discuss.

 

[Logic]

Am I the only one who can't decide between the 6 speed manual and the DSG-style transmission that will be available for the EVO X? I'm trying to weigh out the pros and cons.

I'm guessing the DSG style trans will cost more, but since this is Mitsubishi's first crack at a DSG style gearbox, will it be as reliable as a classic 6 speed manual? Will it really perform that much better? Will you have to sacrifice some control with such a transmission? Discuss.

Surly it will cost more, but I think it will be worth it. As far as it perfoming better ?!?!?!? I'm just guessing it will be just that much more of an experience driving it. We will have to wait to see what it's tru Dyno Specs are!!

Seriously though, a sport car is a sport car and I can't live w/o a manual gearbox... But who knows I could be persuaded ya know.

CHEERS!!

 

[Kooldino]

I read a blurb in Sport Compact Car about the DSG style trans, and how it's computer controlled. Apparently the shifts are all calibrated for a stock horsepower car, etc, etc. So if I got the DSG style box, I might have to deal with the TCU headache.

I'm starting to lean towards the manual now.

 

[Jaysanooch]

Why? Your thinking of moding it already...lol! Still, it would be nice to have all the options though...but I see what your saying.

BTW, I wasn't expecting a memo but you never told you were considering the Evo X. I don't blame you though...wish it was coming to Canadia...or is it?

 

[Kooldino]

Moding it? Of course! I hope to someday know the X as well as I do the Protege.

Yeah, I've been considering the X for a couple of years now.

It SHOULD be coming to canadia. The 8's didn't because of some bumper nonsense.

 

[Kasedog18]

I will be going 6 spd. I have driven a few DSG/paddle shifer cars andyou cant replace a clutch. SOrry. Its fun at first and yes it can shift faster than a human, but i am buying the car to enjoy it. So 6spd all the way for me

 

[Jaysanooch]

Something to think about guys and I don't want to be a party pooper but I find as I get older....manual is getting annoying. Especially since I live in a city, lots of lights and traffic. I'm leaning towards paddle shift option to have the best of both worlds.

 

[Kooldino]

^I can sympathize with you, Jay. I despise my MT when I'm in the city. And it can be a real PITA. Honestly, I was all about the paddle shifters until I read the potential tuning limitations with that trans for the high powered cars. For some mild power mods, the DSG box shouldn't be an issue, but knowing me, I'll go nuts with my X.

 

[Koenig]

First.......what's Canadia?

lol, ok anyway...... I drive my speed6 in the city with the 6 speed manual, I don't mind it, it doesn't bother me at all, even with the lights and traffic...

besides if you want to be able to mod this car and WRING it out to high holy heck, you'd be better off with the manual...... I never believed all that electronic garbage and when you need to handle the higher HP, you can get a bigger/better clutch setup to hand the power, I don't see how you'd do that for an electronic transmission.....

6 speed manual for me....

 

[Kooldino]

First.......what's Canadia?

It's a fictional land that didn't get any evos yet.

besides if you want to be able to mod this car and WRING it out to high holy heck, you'd be better off with the manual...... I never believed all that electronic garbage and when you need to handle the higher HP, you can get a bigger/better clutch setup to hand the power,

I hear ya.

I don't see how you'd do that for an electronic transmission.....

Tuning! (maybe).

 

[Koenig]

Tuning! (maybe).

lol @ fictional land....... i have a buddy in my FORZA race club on xbox live... we were all in a chat once and he typed Cananada (he's from canada) and my other friend was like

Holy **** you ****ed up your own country

and he goes...... it's already ****ed up, not my fault, it was funny, but he bombed the spelling of the name, like me typing United States of Ameria




ok aside from that......... tuning for the DSG ? hmmm I dunno.......the tuning companies would have to crack that code some how, and I can see Mitsu only using the 6 speed in the races, not the DSG..... just my 2 cents.

 

[Kooldino]

There will be a market for companies to crack the TCU, mark my words. And apparently, the DSG style box is faster...so I wouldn't be shocked if they used that in racing.

 

[Jaysanooch]

lol @ fictional land....... i have a buddy in my FORZA race club on xbox live... we were all in a chat once and he typed Cananada (he's from canada) and my other friend was like

Holy **** you ****ed up your own country

and he goes...... it's already ****ed up, not my fault, it was funny, but he bombed the spelling of the name, like me typing United States of Ameria

I like that...AMERIA...lol! Ya Canadia..I got that from Kooldino and I thought it was funny...and it stuck. Canadia, Cananada who cares, we got bigger problems in the world. I don't let things like that bother me and besides...I'm not going to get all defensive with the guy who's tuning my car.

Ya and tuning the DSG box...I was thinking of that to, I'd put my money on that. I could just see it now...2-3 years from now in a thread in this forum (Speedcircuit now tunes DSG's transmissions).

 

[Kooldino]

I like that...AMERIA...lol! Ya Canadia..I got that from Kooldino and I thought it was funny...and it stuck. Canadia, Cananada who cares, we got bigger problems in the world. I don't let things like that bother me and besides...I'm not going to get all defensive with the guy who's tuning my car.

LOL. "No, Jason...that crackling sound is NORMAL at WOT"

Ya and tuning the DSG box...I was thinking of that to, I'd put my money on that. I could just see it now...2-3 years from now in a thread in this forum (Speedcircuit now tunes DSG's transmissions).

Hahaha. You never know.

 

[Kooldino]

Another thing I'm curious on with the DSG style box...how do you launch it? You can't exactly slip the clutch.

Do you rev it up in neutral and then bang it into first? Wouldn't the car bog or the trans explode?

 

[jred321]

it will asplode

i don't think mitsu usually makes things super hard to crack. for example there are some AYC controllers out there

and canadia can also be referred to as canuckistan

 

[Kooldino]

it will asplode

You think? How the hell do they launch them then?

i don't think mitsu usually makes things super hard to crack. for example there are some AYC controllers out there

That's a good sign.

and canadia can also be referred to as canuckistan

 

[jred321]

You think? How the hell do they launch them then?

good question. what other awd DSG cars are out there? lambos? is that it?

 

[Kooldino]

which lambo has DSG? The gallardo?

What about that Audi that's built on the gallardo platform?

 

[jred321]

the gallardo is awd and offers "an advanced six-speed electro-hydraulically controlled auto-clutch manual, or, as Lamborghini abbreviates it to, "E-gear"." the murcielago offers the same e-gear and is awd

the R8 is awd (quattro, different than lambo awd) and offers manual or what they're calling an R tronic transmission which i have to assume is a DSG and not an automatic with manual function

i'm trying to think of other awd cars that came with a DSG type of transmission. did bmw ever put it in the xi 3-series? did mercedes in their 4motion? i definitely can't think of a car with not much low end torque that would really require a huge clutch dump (like the evo) to get good quarter mile times