[HappyMint]

For street I'm sure these are fine, but since I Auto X, I wouldn't be caught dead in a Max Performance Summer tire. I've made that mistake and regretted it >.>. It's Star specs or RS3's for me or bust now a days

I'd be interested to see how these compare to NT05's.

 

[HappyMint]

Bro, I get what your saying, i do. You have to realize that tread wear ratings are determined by the manufacture. Its not done by a third party that has no interest in the tires. Also, the tread wear rating does imply how much grip the tires are going to have, but in reality you can have really stick tires that have a higher tread wear rating. MPSS. Michelin has done its homework on these and the reviews speak for themselves. Im not sure you know what your talking about when you reference the tread wear rating as the only basis for the tires grip.:thumb up:

Dunlop Direzza star spec
temp A
traction A
Treadwear 200

MPSS
temp A
traction AA
Treadwear 300

As we all know the star spec is a great tire for autocross, even so the MPSS was rated the highest traction AA, even higher then the Star specs. So do some research my friend and then make a markable contribution to this forum.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=48

I (We) are aware about how tread wear ratings are issued.

I, like you, had hopes that the best Max performance summer tire would be as good as an Extreme Performance Summer tire. I bought the highest rated max performance summer tire at the time (Conti DW - 280 tread wear btw) and I instantly noticed a big difference between them and the previous tires. Fact of the matter is doesn't matter what tread pattern you choose or whatever else, at the end of the day the compound used when the tire is created dictates ultimate grip more than anything else. If you've ever touched a pair of RS3's you can FEEL the difference between them and any Max Performance Summer tire on the market that I've seen. I dare you to prove me wrong. Meanwhile, I'll be going faster than you are b/c my tires are better in the dry. Period.

Did you ever read your link? The traction rating of AA is for WET. You have proven our point. The better a tire is in the wet, the WORSE it's going to be in the dry, it's a trade off. It has to do with the compound of the rubber. For example, the more Silica, the more traction in the wet, but less in the dry.

Yes the reviews by all those BMW and Porche owners on tire rack that have never left the street with their tires speak for themselves. I got an idea. Go talk to someone who actually races their car about those tires. But hey, for those of us who, I don't know, actually race our cars competitively and often, our reviews don't count.

Girl Please.... :ghey:

 

[HappyMint]

U mad bro?

Lol you are pathetic.

 

[HappyMint]

From what you guys saying it's a good street tire but bad track tire so if I'm not planning on tracking my car get them. If I'm gonna track there's better tires for it.

I wouldn't go so far as to call it a bad track tire by any means. I'd just say, if you're concerned about your time and about going as fast as possible, there are street legal tires out there that would be faster on the track.

 

[HappyMint]

There may be BETTER track tires out there (obviously, yet that's all you keep saying), but the track isn't where you spend the bulk of your time unless you're Robevo or Gates. Good information in your post, but how about the fact that the MPSS have been track tested heavily during the One Lap of America? Tested and proven. Not all of us need R compound tires and not all of us track on a weekly basis. This is a compromise tire for BOTH. I'm sure it's quite capable for an auto-X.

No question, the tires will work on the track well. I wasn't disputing that. I was more responding to someone else who was acting like an ass and picking a fight with another member.

I would probably love to DD in these tires. I would just swap them out before running an Auto X if I was trying to be as competitive as possible in my class. I definitely think these tires would be great tires for the evo overall, and it's not like running all seasons in the summer by any means. The point I was making is that I personally feel it's foolish to make the argument that these would be *faster* on the track/auto-x than the RS3's or Star Specs. Better tread life - sure, better turn in or response, possibly, but not better sheer grip. I've made that mistake and was trying to inform people before spending over a grand on a set of tires like I did, there are situations where you might wish you were running a more aggressive compound.

 

[HappyMint]

As we all know the star spec is a great tire for autocross, even so the MPSS was rated the highest traction AA, even higher then the Star specs. So do some research my friend and then make a markable contribution to this forum.

just read up champ, your still clogging this thread with useless information.

U mad bro?

If you reap what you sew, don't act like an ass if you don't want confrontational responses. I'll admit, I understand how Jazz's responses could have upset you, especially since you just bought a set of these tires. Though your argument would have been much more successful if it wasn't wrapped up with the smart comment :/. Just some food for thought.

Man, I really wish we were closer to each other, you know we could hang out. I could introduce you to my size 12. Seriously, you had some good points until that comment.

Not sure what this is, a petty threat? Oh you're offended by my comment which was a response to your "U mad bro?". Sorry, but that response was pathetic, sorry for speaking my mind.

Ever since Trick3d gave me the nickname "The Preacher" I must have let it get to my head, my size 12 one, I wouldn't want to have to slap you with it (LOL!)

I know I'm being a little antagonistic, my apologies.

 

[HappyMint]

:hitit: This is the closest I could find to a hug icon

 

[HappyMint]

What did tr3ked get banned for?

Woah! Why would he get banned!?!