[Kooldino]

So, according to mitsu, the MR won't have the option of a true manual transmission.

MR Adds:

* Twin Clutch Sportronic Shift Transmission (TC-SST) with magnesium steering wheel shifter paddles

This makes me sad.

I really want an MR, and don't mind paying extra for it, but goddamn, at least give me an option on the transmission!

So now I'm torn...do I sacrifice the features and everything I want to go for the GSR with the 5MT, or do I get the MR with a transmission that I don't think I want?

Anyone else in my shoes?

 

[silvreclipse]

thats the deal breaker for me.i knew it was too good to be true they had to docome up with some shit.

 

[_Chris_]

You didnt know?

What are you gonna do when you get the GTR? It only comes with Dual Clutch.

 

[Kooldino]

I read that once or twice before, but I didn't hear it directly from mitsu. I hope they wise up.

 

[_Chris_]

... I hope they wise up.

I was hoping we can mix around the different packages/trims/features. Oh well. Im gonna go with the GSR SSS

http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2007101731370&mime=ASC

 

[Kooldino]

I really want everything about the MR with the exception of the trans. I just don't trust it yet.

 

[Dzine07]

tranny aside... what are the core differences between the GSR and the MR? aside from HID's and maybe the interior lighting.

I'm getting the MR because i've driven by bro's dual clutch audi and i love it. companies have been R&Ding this technology for ages -more-so on high end cars. but its proven. the only reason i wouldnt get the MR with that tranny is because mitsu reports slower performance with the dual clutch than with the standard manual. they are currently working this out for the US market but who knows for sure. the latest issue of road and track explains it better. luckily for me im not planning on beiing that hard core on track sundays. .. and with a little tunning i can still smoke my bro's audi with the dual clutch.:uzi:

i also heard if you get the evo in red it shaves of a couple seconds opcorn:

 

[Dzine07]

but i feel your pain. on a car such as this -its almost a no brainer to have the old "manny tranny".<<<:bggay:

also,is the TC-SST available on other models as well?? or just the MR? i know i've spoken about this before but im not sure i got a clear answer.

just wondering. thanks guys

 

[Kooldino]

I think in the US it's only available in the MR.

I have to look over the spec sheets again, but if they're going to pull this crap with the MR, I may just get an RS and upgrade that, rather than starting with a GSR and upgrading it.

 

[Dzine07]

i read that for the first year the only trims to be sold are GSR and MR. the MR beiing the only TC-SST. in the latest motor trend (with the yellow vette on the cover) it explains why and so forth. also, its been said that a lesser version of the evo will be up to bat next fall alongside a more potent evo to add to the MR with the possibility of a manual.

i have a friend in the industry who can swear to this as well. although im a bit skeptical about there beiing only two models to start off. but then again i was skeptical about the dual clutch as well.

 

[Kooldino]

Hmm...an MR manual, eh?

 

[_Chris_]

tranny aside... what are the core differences between the GSR and the MR? aside from HID's and maybe the interior
opcorn:

http://www.evoxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787

 

[jwfisher]

And the future RS model has the SST too.

 

[Wraith]

i read that for the first year the only trims to be sold are GSR and MR. the MR beiing the only TC-SST. in the latest motor trend (with the yellow vette on the cover) it explains why and so forth. also, its been said that a lesser version of the evo will be up to bat next fall alongside a more potent evo to add to the MR with the possibility of a manual.

i have a friend in the industry who can swear to this as well. although im a bit skeptical about there beiing only two models to start off. but then again i was skeptical about the dual clutch as well.

I've read a bit along these lines as well, which is why I'm going to 'try' and be patient and just hang in there and wait a bit.......there will be plenty more than what's available now at first down the track for the new Evo...

SST will eventually be an option on other variants and Mitsu 'might' introduce the 6spd and not 5spd MT option on future MR's...

Also if there will be a more potent variant of MR in the future, I'd rather wait to see what that's all about too.

Any probs 'if any' with initial batches will hopefully be sorted by then as well and tuning knowledge/products can progress a little as well

I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I get an Evo now and want to replace it only 12 months down the track because of a much better release or more favourable options choices at that time.....I have a strong feeling that's how it's going to be with this car ??

 

[Kooldino]

I wouldn't want to be in a situation where I get an Evo now and want to replace it only 12 months down the track because of a much better release or more favourable options choices at that time.....I have a strong feeling that's how it's going to be with this car ??

I'm thinking along these lines as well.

 

[Dzine07]

unfortunately this is the dilema most new car buyers are faced with when looking into a new release. with regards to the evo. i feel very strongly that the only thing that might get tweaked is the transmission/SST. especially on the MR (wich concerns me because the SST would be my first pick). although im confident they wouldnt put something in the market that would hinder mitsubishi on a flagship such as the evo -no one knows for sure how these trannies react to real life scenarios on a variety of levels. One things for sure though, i wont be the guinnea pig that buys the MR first. i'll wait it out a bit a read the short road tests and reviews.

If your looking at the Manual tranny >>i think you should feel confident.

besides, these cars dont typically recieve many changes from model year to model year from what i hear.

 

[Spoonie]

The only reason why I’m even considering an EVO X is because of the SST. I’ve been driving manuals since 1988 and I’m tired of pushing in a clutch. I’ll gladly take a clutch-pedal’less transmission that shifts faster than any manual. Maybe it’s me but the whole clutch thing seems a little archaic. Bring on the SST!!

 

[Kooldino]

^I hear ya, but there are certain situations where I think it could be beneficial to have a clutch.

 

[Spoonie]

^I hear ya, but there are certain situations where I think it could be beneficial to have a clutch.

I agree. One example I can think of is sometimes I'll push in the clutch to get the car to roll backwards a little bit If my car is sticking out at an intersection, or to give a truck more room to turn. This only works on a slightly uphill intersection but I find myself doing this often. I also find myself pushing in the clutch if I'm going down a long hill (saves a little gas) I hope the SST transmission gives you the ability to coast

 

[Kooldino]

I agree. One example I can think of is sometimes I'll push in the clutch to get the car to roll backwards a little bit If my car is sticking out at an intersection, or to give a truck more room to turn. This only works on a slightly uphill intersection but I find myself doing this often.

Right, or what if you're going up a hill and you need to yield? you can hold the clutch so that the car won't move, and then you can accelerate again when you engage it. With the SST box, you'll have to make the quick transition between brake and gas rather than doing it all with the clutch.

I also find myself pushing in the clutch if I'm going down a long hill (saves a little gas)

Actually, that's untrue. If you have a manual trans and you're going down a hill, you're best off keeping it in gear and letting off of the throttle. As long as your RPMs are above idle speed, you will use zero gas, as your injectors won't be firing.

Push in the clutch, however, and you are now forcing the car to idle and burn fuel.

I hope the SST transmission gives you the ability to coast

Ditto.