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Before I was old enough to drive, I spent a LOT of time on my bicycle. When I was old enough to legally work (14), my first major purchase was a new mountain bike. I went with a Diamondback Outlook, their entry level mountain bike. Not surprisingly I modified and customized it.

About two years later I sold that, and stepped up a notch to a leftover 1995 Diamondback Sorrento. I really wanted the Sorrento Sport (the same bike but with suspension), but it was out of my price range. The Sorrento was a decent bike for what it was, and of course I did my typical modifications to that as well - bar ends, grips, bags, seatpost suspension, speedometer, new shifters/brakes, etc.

Although I rarely ride anymore, I still ride that same bike. For years, I've contemplated getting a new bike. I've always wanted something lighter (my bike is a chromoly frame), and I've always wanted at least front suspension.

The problem is that anything I ever checked out was either way too expensive, felt like junk, or both. Practically all bikes anymore come with front suspension. The problem is that the front suspension is so terrible, you'll eat up all of the suspension travel just during a routine stop. The shifting components don't feel any better than they did 15 years ago, and combined with the fact that most places that sell bikes can't tune a derailleur to save their lives, it just makes matters worse.

Anyway, while running errands yesterday, I walked by a bike shop. Tempted by fate, I walked in. Curious as to what I could find for around $500, I started looking around. Let's just say I wasn't impressed. Simply put, the bikes just kind of felt cheap.

I worked my way up the price scale trying to feel the difference between each step. Nothing really impressed me. The bikes didn't feel solid. The front suspension felt like mush. I'd rather have no front suspension than mush that would bottom out if I farted too hard. And if I was forgoing suspension, then I'd be better off sticking with my current bike.

Just when I was about to give up all hope, I looked at their nicest mountain bike in stock:

2010 Jamis Dakota Race:



http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/hardtails/dakota/10_dakotadxcrace.html

I sat on it. Felt good. The 19" frame felt right for me. I rode it slowly down a small aisle in the store and stopped abruptly with the front brakes - the suspension didn't turn into jello. The suspension adjustments were, quick, easy, and effective. Finally, I was impressed.

The clerk let me take it out and ride around the parking lot. I really liked it. Light weight, good balance, nice feel.

The downside - sticker on the bike is $1575. They offered to cut me a deal and sell it to me at $1250 since the 2011s would soon be out. Even with this generous offer, it's still too expensive to justify. Sometimes it's nice to dream.

TL;DR - Bought a mountain bike when I was 16. Took good care of it and still ride it. Would replace it but the bikes I like cost a ton.
 

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Everything you said makes sense.....except for the farting part. I'm inclined to think a hard-farting situation would induce lift....and hence a suspension de-compression, not a compression.....no? seriously!
 

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Yup, bikes are expensive... The frames are all very similar, and aside from a handful, they are all made in the same building in china or taiwan. The real differences that you are looking at with these bikes are the components.

Unfortunately, a decent bike will cost a big chunk of money... I paid $2800 for my bike, done some minor changes... seat, cockpit, pedals, etc. But I have 6000 miles on it now and it still feels like a new bike.
 

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wow 2800 that's a good more than my wife's car is worth lol. Anyway I have a Lotus it's a race bike and in 1995 it cost around 1k on sale. it still looks like new And I agree sitting on new bikes at this price they feel like crap. I Bought a mountain bike from dicks that was half off 600 for a 1200 bike due to it being the end of the model year and it felt solid unlike cheaper bikes and I killed it in three years of not so hard of road biking it is such junk and not cheap I replaced everything on it and now the frame is bent so it is in the trash. The 80's and 90's the best bikes were made for the money now if you want a bike
 

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It's like the Bing commercials where everyone starts rambling related crap you didn't want/need...
 

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I have Jamis Dakar XLT from 2007 and it feels like I'm riding on a cloud. Those disc brakes came in handy, I would have went over a 20ft drop without them. I bought it for $1500 back then, but only rode it for one season. I really need to get back on that pedal power!
 
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