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Hey not sure how many of you guys were planning on pre-ordering the new evo in the U.S. at sticker price, or how many were gonna wait it out and see after they test drove it and stuff, but the fleet manager at Don Herring Mitsubishi in the DFW area told me that on the first shipment of the new evo's only what MMNA considers are the top 25 "premier dealerships" (based on high volume sales in a geographic area, triple diamond awards, etc.) are gonna receive them, and then slowly the others are gonna get their hands on them. But technically, by law, if you order from these dealerships as a LEGITIMATE pre-order (with a deposit and contract), they can only sell it to you at sticker price. Afterwards, they can buy the cars themselves and jack up the price and all that if they feel like it. I'm not saying that these are the only 25 you can pre-order from, but they are the first 25 that should get their hands on them before any other dealership. Anyway, just thought I'd let you guys know that's what Don Herring Mitsubishi is doing... I put my deposit down a little over a month ago, and so, according to him, I'm first on the list in all of Texas. He said in a few weeks, he should have all the (official) info on the car with prices, transmission, trims, options, etc. to choose from. Also, note that some of these dealerships may decide not to take pre-orders until they have all of the official info.

But if you're like me and you just HAVE to have it as SOON as it's available... then here are the 25 Premier Dealerships that he was telling me about (not in any particular order):

1. Don Herring Mitsubishi - Dallas/Fort Worth, TEXAS
2. Bill Seidle Mitsubishi - Miami/Fort Lauderdale, FLORIDA
3. Big Two Mitsubishi - Phoenix/Scottsdale, ARIZONA
4. Metro Mitsubishi - Omaha, NEBRASKA
5. Walker's Renton Mitsubishi - Seattle/Tacoma, WASHINGTON
6. Grava Mitsubishi - Boston, MASSACHUSETTS
7. Kirkwood Mitsubishi - St. Louis, MISSOURI
8. Mike Riddle Mitsubishi - Salt Lake City/Woods Cross, UTAH
9. Mark Mitsubishi - Phoenix/Scottsdale, ARIZONA
10. Luther Brookdale Mitsubishi - Minneapolis/St. Paul, MINNESOTA
11. Dan Georger Mitsubishi - Buffalo, NEW YORK
12. Phil Smith Mitsubishi - Miami/Fort Lauderdale, FLORIDA
13. Northtowne Mitsubishi - Kansas City, MISSOURI/KANSAS
14. Lee's Summit Mitsubishi - Kansas City, MISSOURI/KANSAS
15. Courtesy Mitsubishi - Las Vegas/Henderson, NEVADA
16. Jeff Phillips Mitsubishi - Charlotte, NORTH CAROLINA
17. Max Madsen Mitsubishi - Chicago, ILLINOIS
18. South Coast Mitsubishi - Costa Mesa/Los Angeles, CALIFORNIA
19. Anaheim Mitsubishi - Anaheim/Los Angeles, CALIFORNIA
20. Huntington Beach Mitsubishi - Huntington Beach/Los Angeles, CALIFORNIA
21. Poway Mitsubishi - San Diego, CALIFORNIA
22. Mentor Mitsubishi - Cleveland, OHIO
23. Don Jackson Mitsubishi - Atlanta, GEORGIA
24. San Rafael Mitsubishi - San Rafael/San Francisco, CALIFORNIA
25. Stohlman Mitsubishi - Washington, D.C.
 

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I went through this with MINI, too, sometimes you (the dealer) have to order the car before you know all the specifics of the car. You just get to pick the colour, maybe the transmission, and that's it. My dealer could not even choose the transmission, they were told it would be a manual. They then asked for graphite grey (on my behalf).
 

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Bad news for some

I'm gonna post this to burst all your bubbles because I have concrete information

I just called #25 on the list above (because I live in that area) and the manager has informed me of the following things

1) The car should be out in December for the D.C. Metropolitan area
2) Pre-ordering does not affect pricing at all. I asked him specifically the benefits of pre-ordering, and he informed me there were none price-wise, besides being able to get the first car.
3) Mitsu will be sending the first few cars without any ability to customize them. Those first few cars will be sold as is. Then you can custom order.
4) He quoted a bare bones (GSR) at $40,000 USD. He said fully loaded I could expect $50,000 (with TSST, etc)
This information has been handed to him verbally from the manufacturer. I'm on his contact list and will update this post if any of the information changes as more concrete info arrives.
5) There is no "by-law" sticker price thing at all. It seems like this $40K GSR is probably horrendously marked up already.
6) There is only 1 person on the DC waiting list right now.

I'm having second thoughts about this car, at least buying it in my area...
Perhaps my 135i would even be cheaper than the evo...
 

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He quoted a bare bones (GSR) at $40,000 USD. He said fully loaded I could expect $50,000 (with TSST, etc)

That will be their biggest mistakes. 40g for gsr and 50 for mr tsst. i'll buy evo 9 mr instead and i don't care with the new features of evo x.:wtfsign: :whipping: :bsflag:
 

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Mentor Mitsubishi in Cleveland isn't far from me.

Those prices are a bit too high for what the car is. How would it compete with the STI like that? With any luck, that info is bogus.
 

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Wow... The fleet manager at Don Herring told me to expect the car to be slightly higher than the IX, if higher at all. And the "by-law" sticker price he was referring to is how dealerships buy the car themselves from their lot, so that they can mark up the price and make some more profit from it. This way instead of buying directly from Mitsubishi (as you would be from a pre-order), you're buying from the dealership at whatever price they offer to sell it. My friend pre-ordered an M3 convertible when the E46 body style first came out, and he lucked out by pre-ordering, and getting the car at sticker price (46k, I believe). Afterwards for almost a year, all the M3 convertibles that went through the dealership here were either auctioned off to other lots, or were marked up by at least 10k. I remember someone offered him 55k for that car after he had it for 10 months already. Same thing usually goes for ferraris, lambos, etc. You can always buy them tremendously marked up from a dealer (because unless someone's signed up for a pre-order, they'll buy the car themselves), or you can put your name down for a pre-order, and expect to wait a year or two since they are produced in a limited quantity annually.

I can't imagine spending 50k on the new MR... And the guy over here told me he'll have all the options listed for customizing... Do you know if the guy at your DC store was referring to like basic options like color, sunroof, sound, navi, leather, etc? Or like those accessory things like lighting and stuff they are doing in Japan from that catalog that's floating around? As far as I have known, you should always at least be able to choose your color, transmission, and basic packages like leather and stuff...

I guess time will tell once we get closer.
 

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I'm gonna post this to burst all your bubbles because I have concrete information

I just called #25 on the list above (because I live in that area) and the manager has informed me of the following things

1) The car should be out in December for the D.C. Metropolitan area
2) Pre-ordering does not affect pricing at all. I asked him specifically the benefits of pre-ordering, and he informed me there were none price-wise, besides being able to get the first car.
3) Mitsu will be sending the first few cars without any ability to customize them. Those first few cars will be sold as is. Then you can custom order.
4) He quoted a bare bones (GSR) at $40,000 USD. He said fully loaded I could expect $50,000 (with TSST, etc)
This information has been handed to him verbally from the manufacturer. I'm on his contact list and will update this post if any of the information changes as more concrete info arrives.
5) There is no "by-law" sticker price thing at all. It seems like this $40K GSR is probably horrendously marked up already.
6) There is only 1 person on the DC waiting list right now.

I'm having second thoughts about this car, at least buying it in my area...
Perhaps my 135i would even be cheaper than the evo...
HAHA. There is no concrete info. My wife spoke to the General Manager of the Annapolis dealership. He said, after meeting with one of the factory representatives, that the GSR premium will be between 33K-35K and the MR Premium will be between 36K-38k.

I hate to burst your bubble. Do you really trust the stealerships.
 

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i went to Don Herring a month ago looking for that graphite grey evo mr. he said it will be same but a bit more evo 9 mr for the top line. i don't know now.




Wow... The fleet manager at Don Herring told me to expect the car to be slightly higher than the IX, if higher at all. And the "by-law" sticker price he was referring to is how dealerships buy the car themselves from their lot, so that they can mark up the price and make some more profit from it. This way instead of buying directly from Mitsubishi (as you would be from a pre-order), you're buying from the dealership at whatever price they offer to sell it. My friend pre-ordered an M3 convertible when the E46 body style first came out, and he lucked out by pre-ordering, and getting the car at sticker price (46k, I believe). Afterwards for almost a year, all the M3 convertibles that went through the dealership here were either auctioned off to other lots, or were marked up by at least 10k. I remember someone offered him 55k for that car after he had it for 10 months already. Same thing usually goes for ferraris, lambos, etc. You can always buy them tremendously marked up from a dealer (because unless someone's signed up for a pre-order, they'll buy the car themselves), or you can put your name down for a pre-order, and expect to wait a year or two since they are produced in a limited quantity annually.

I can't imagine spending 50k on the new MR... And the guy over here told me he'll have all the options listed for customizing... Do you know if the guy at your DC store was referring to like basic options like color, sunroof, sound, navi, leather, etc? Or like those accessory things like lighting and stuff they are doing in Japan from that catalog that's floating around? As far as I have known, you should always at least be able to choose your color, transmission, and basic packages like leather and stuff...

I guess time will tell once we get closer.
 

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Yeah... that's what I was gonna say too. I'm pretty sure they jacked up the price, and that's why they're saying there's no such thing as a "pre-order." Because if they really took a $1000 deposit, and had you sign a contract with MMNA, they have to sell it to you at sticker price. But that DC dealership telling you that there's no different in doing a pre-order, I'm thinking they're just saying that because they don't want anyone to pre-order because then they're not able to jack up the price and there's potential profit loss.

I don't know... But a lot of that information the guy told you sounds kinda off the wall.
 

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HAHA. There is no concrete info. My wife spoke to the General Manager of the Annapolis dealership. He said, after meeting with one of the factory representatives, that the GSR premium will be between 33K-35K and the MR Premium will be between 36K-38k.

I hate to burst your bubble. Do you really trust the stealerships.
that sounds about right..but i never heard of dealerships offering at sticker price if you pre-order. Is it the same here in California? I'll probably contact them and ask.
 

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that sounds about right..but i never heard of dealerships offering at sticker price if you pre-order. Is it the same here in California? I'll probably contact them and ask.
It seems to me that if you pre-order you should not pay more than the sticker price. You are providing their market for them, that will lead to scarce supply and will allow them to mark-up later vehicles. If they couldn't give you a price when you put down your deposit, or they didn't tell you how much the mark-up would be, then you should fully expect to only pay MSRP. If they try otherwise I would be on the phone to Mitsu USA and not stop calling until someone high up deals with your greedy dealer.
 

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Wow... The fleet manager at Don Herring told me to expect the car to be slightly higher than the IX, if higher at all. And the "by-law" sticker price he was referring to is how dealerships buy the car themselves from their lot, so that they can mark up the price and make some more profit from it. This way instead of buying directly from Mitsubishi (as you would be from a pre-order), you're buying from the dealership at whatever price they offer to sell it. My friend pre-ordered an M3 convertible when the E46 body style first came out, and he lucked out by pre-ordering, and getting the car at sticker price (46k, I believe). Afterwards for almost a year, all the M3 convertibles that went through the dealership here were either auctioned off to other lots, or were marked up by at least 10k. I remember someone offered him 55k for that car after he had it for 10 months already. Same thing usually goes for ferraris, lambos, etc. You can always buy them tremendously marked up from a dealer (because unless someone's signed up for a pre-order, they'll buy the car themselves), or you can put your name down for a pre-order, and expect to wait a year or two since they are produced in a limited quantity annually.

I can't imagine spending 50k on the new MR... And the guy over here told me he'll have all the options listed for customizing... Do you know if the guy at your DC store was referring to like basic options like color, sunroof, sound, navi, leather, etc? Or like those accessory things like lighting and stuff they are doing in Japan from that catalog that's floating around? As far as I have known, you should always at least be able to choose your color, transmission, and basic packages like leather and stuff...

I guess time will tell once we get closer.

Man, that's got me thinking.

I wouldn't mind theoretically pre-ordering if the terms were right. I'd want to be locked into a good price, however, have the option of getting a full refund on my deposit in the event that something went awry.

My two problems at this point are:

1-I don't know what a "good price" is
and
2-I'm not even sure which trim I want at this point. Can they please just offer an MR with a 5MT? Rumors say they may later.
 
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