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So me and my buddy finished the install on my MAP EF3 today. With my full mod list as follows :

AMS Front Mount
AMS Upper Intercooler Pipe
AMS Downpipe
AMS Test Pipe
Agency Power Cat Back
Cobb SF Intake
Grimmspeed 3Port
DW1000cc Injectors
DW65c Pump
MAP Short Runner Manifold
MAP EF3 Turbo

So after long contemplating on who I should carry my car to for tuning, I decided to go with the Almighty Chet Rickerman. As he said, after the install of the turbo, mani, injectors, and pump, my car wouldn't crank. Me knowing absolutely nothing about tuning and barely knowing how to get myself to EvoXForums operating a computer, He answers my phone call and talks me through everything step by step on how to and what to log and send to him. I'm sure he was probably face palming plenty with the idiotic and dumb questions I had since I'm so dumb with with tuning and any type of ECU software.

I just thought I'd make this thread so I can post up my results from beginning to end of this journey ahead and review for Chet. So far, so good though. It's just great how you can call or text with any type of question and he there almost any time of the day to help. But tomorrow i'll really start doing some logging once my wideband is soldered in.

Updates will be posted frequently.
 

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Wilson. About 30 min east of Raleigh.
 

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Nice..I grew up in Fayetteville. Wilsons such a quiet lil town lol. I'll keep checking this thread for updates since i decided to go w/ an EF3 as well. EF2.5 just didnt look like it'd hit my end goal...oh yea OB FTW!
 

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Congratulations!

You have a great car.
We studied hardeware solution chosen and I noticed injectors DW 1000, which are actually slightly higher in reality.
DW1000cc Injectors - I have left a bitter taste but hopefully they'll work well for you.
When possible, besides classical dyno chart with power and torque, also please to display AFR.
 

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+10 For Chet, He was very helpful in answering practically instantly a ton of questions via phone/email/text as HDGamer and I were setting up his wideband failsafe, trying to do some logging on both of our cars and also correctly diagnosed that my fuel pump had failed based on symptoms I described to him over the phone.
 

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Yea, it's going great so far. Just getting the injectors dialed in right now though. I'm having issues getting my wideband to record though. I soldered it in (because I followed the steps in the thread for it), still having some issues though. Im sure Chet's gonna be able to help me out and get everything right though.
 

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sounds like a solid setup man, sub'd for updates, cant wait to see some results. I'm in the beginning stages of tuning so any input I can grab is good.
 

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Update : Chet's genius self figured out my wideband problem, and it was just the formula. We're still scaling the injectors in though. Im assuming / once they're done, we can begin making pulls. :)
 

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Update : Chet's genius self figured out my wideband problem, and it was just the formula. We're still scaling the injectors in though. Im assuming / once they're done, we can begin making pulls. :)
With the help of Rich :)
 

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Those were kneepads, for the record.


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Yea i'm reading that formula is gonna be a tricky lil hoe..I'm going to have to do most of the same mods as you Octane minus the turbo of course..How hard is it to scale the injectors? i thought if u were provided values to plug in for scaling (like MAP injectors include) You were good to go..had no idea it could take this long for JUST scaling..But getting it right the first time is always more important, regardless of time

Update : Chet's genius self figured out my wideband problem, and it was just the formula. We're still scaling the injectors in though. Im assuming / once they're done, we can begin making pulls. :)
 

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Scaling takes time. You can't just "plug in" the latency values (although all of us tuner wish it was that easy!). Injectors are typically flow tested after manufacturing and injectors with similar latency and flow characteristics are packaged together. The exact same type of injector can require different settings to run right. The provided values are a good starting point, but typically you'll still have to make some adjustments.
 

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Scaling takes time. You can't just "plug in" the latency values (although all of us tuner wish it was that easy!). Injectors are typically flow tested after manufacturing and injectors with similar latency and flow characteristics are packaged together. The exact same type of injector can require different settings to run right.
Out of curiosity, are some injectors easier to scale than others? I'm not talking about quality, I don't want to start an attack on the vendors....plus higher quality could mean more difficulty for all I know. But are some easier to work with than other from a tuner perspective?
 

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Out of curiosity, are some injectors easier to scale than others? I'm not talking about quality, I don't want to start an attack on the vendors....plus higher quality could mean more difficulty for all I know. But are some easier to work with than other from a tuner perspective?
I believe the closer to stock size the easier they are to dial in.
 

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Out of curiosity, are some injectors easier to scale than others? I'm not talking about quality, I don't want to start an attack on the vendors....plus higher quality could mean more difficulty for all I know. But are some easier to work with than other from a tuner perspective?
Some injectors are easier to scale because all you have to do is plug in the injector scaling and latencies and make a couple adjustments and they are good to go. Other injectors aren't that easy, like DW's, but that doesn't mean that they aren't good injectors

2000's aren't easy to dial in because of their size but 1000-1600's are easy
 

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*PHEW* sounds like i made a good choice with the MAPs then lol

Some injectors are easier to scale because all you have to do is plug in the injector scaling and latencies and make a couple adjustments and they are good to go. Other injectors aren't that easy, like DW's, but that doesn't mean that they aren't good injectors

2000's aren't easy to dial in because of their size but 1000-1600's are easy
 
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