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On my track day at willow springs my sst began to overheat and disconnect the transmission (red warning). This started on my third session during the third lap. I had to pull over and let the tranny cool down before I could head to the pit. After the fourth session same thing happened and when I was in the pit fluid was dripping behind the driver front wheel. It was hard to tell if it was sstf. The track temps were mild that day 68 deg and my friend running the same ams cooler had no issues all day long. (He has the fog light delete and I don't). I think theres something else going on due to the fluid leaking. I drove home 2 hours after the session with no issues. A little bit of fluid dripping on the ground this morning...wtf??? My zeitronics user2 external tranny temp gauge read 254 deg when the shut down would occur. My temp readings are normally around 160.
 

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That sucks. I'd try to find that fluid leak. I've heard that the AMS cooler still isn't enough to ward off the overheating problem. I have the SSP cooler, and supposedly it's better, but I've had it overheat on me in 100F weather. I've had fluid leaking from the SST oil pump and had to replace it. No leaks since.
 

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Hey Nate,
Open the flap in front of the front drivers tire (the wheel well). That will give you access to both the cooler and the filter housing. Then you can figure out if its the filter housing or the lines to the cooler itself that are leaking.
As an FYI, I have the stock tranny cooler and I'm running a secondary on the top of the crash beam (inline, not secondary pump). Last season I ran at Streets when it was 108*, never overheated (3 other SST cars did that day). I don't believe that the stock location allows for enough airflow, I'm thinking the tires being right on top of it makes for a pressure zone so the air just sits there rather than flowing past it:wallbash:
 

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@Steelbahamut
My question is the fluid leak sstf? If so, without being able to gauge fluid levels it means draining it out measuring it and putting back in the corrrect amount. PITA. Your second post is the "sweat" condensation or sstf fluid?
@Joe
Are you happy with the SSP? I considered this cooler but for +$1,000 I wanted to give the AMS cooler a shot at it first. Seems like the ability to measure fluid level is a great benefit to the ssp kit. Is is effective, accessible, accurate?
Since my friends cooler worked great all day I think theres something else wrong. Maybe the extreme temp 254 deg and pressure pushed some fluid past the hose connector to the pump or filter. I have driven several hundred miles since with no leaking? I'll do the fog light delete and give it another shot???
@Steve
Tell me about the second cooler... links, pics, etc. How much extra fluid did you add? I might try this before going the ssp route.

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@Joe
Are you happy with the SSP? I considered this cooler but for +$1,000 I wanted to give the AMS cooler a shot at it first. Seems like the ability to measure fluid level is a great benefit to the ssp kit. Is is effective, accessible, accurate?
I'm satisfied, but not thrilled. Temps still get pretty high. I have an oil temp probe in one of the drain plugs for the tranny. I routinely hit 123C (253F) when I'm at the track. Slowdown light turns on when I hit 130C (265F). Not a huge safety margin, if you ask me. You can only measure fluid levels if you get the deep pan. I don't have the deep pan. I only have the cooler, so it's still a guessing game when filling up with fluid. I may have overfilled the system when it overheated.
 

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Be careful running a secondary cooler. You cannot use too large a cooler or run the lines too long, or you run the risk of overloading the mechanical pump in the SST, which is non-replaceable. This is one reason the SSP kit includes a separate pump. I've spent the last year trying to avoid spending the money on the SSP kit, but all I've done is prolong the inevitable. I'd bite the bullet and sell the AMS cooler and get the SST. I also installed a spal fan on the back of the stock cooler that does a decent job. I figure both it and the SSP cooler will be enough.
 

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Maybe the fog light delete is that important?
I have done that as well, and while I'm sure it made a small difference, it was of no real consequence. the stock cooler location is so shitty, I don't think it really matters what you do until you get a secondary cooler like SSP
 

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the question still remains, why did my friends tranny not overheat?

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Is he stock? i'm assuming you don't have the same modifications. The more power producing, the more heat you're going to make. Perhaps he was not driving as aggressively as you as well. Were you both running in S-Sport?
 

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Be careful running a secondary cooler. You cannot use too large a cooler or run the lines too long, or you run the risk of overloading the mechanical pump in the SST, which is non-replaceable. This is one reason the SSP kit includes a separate pump. I've spent the last year trying to avoid spending the money on the SSP kit, but all I've done is prolong the inevitable. I'd bite the bullet and sell the AMS cooler and get the SST. I also installed a spal fan on the back of the stock cooler that does a decent job. I figure both it and the SSP cooler will be enough.
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also had my bumper off the other day and thought it was comical how much larger the oil cooler is than the SST cooler (not to say either is perfect, oem oil cooler has it's limitations too)
 

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I think every small details play some role in keeping it cool. Fog light delete, upgraded cooler(AMS/SSP) better airguide(i did mine), tranny oil. left foot braking(another culprit)
Do you have a picture of your airguide? I just removed mine entirely. I cannot imagine how any of the stock nonsense aids in anything.
 

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He was definately running more aggressive 1:34 laps vs mine 1:43. He has drop in + exhaust and tune. I have aem intake, exhaust, e85. I've got more hp. I was not left braking. we both ran in ssport mode. I used paddles and w/ out. I think maybe I have too much sst fluid. Maybe contributed to the fluid leak?

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Interesting. And obviously you've seen an improvement with this set up?
 
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