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I think I said everything already. This is going I circles.
I trust in 10+ year tuning and race toner , so you can say what evet you want. By the wat the older evos used MAP too.
Hm I think this is the end of my end here.
There is nothing more to say here specially if some one that right with that much experience ... LOL
Rob
I trust in 10+ year tuning and race toner , so you can say what evet you want. By the wat the older evos used MAP too.
Hm I think this is the end of my end here.
There is nothing more to say here specially if some one that right with that much experience ... LOL
Rob
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The only reason it's going in circles is because you keep explaining yourself with "the tuners said so". And besides, it's a BOV..that's all it is...I still don't know why everyone gets so offended by the guys that choose to vent. That's kind of the main reason this all started. People that VTA do so with zero problems, and then everyone else says "Noooo it's bad!"
But that's fine...it was a decent discussion...at least I thought so anyway, even though a couple guys bowed out early. You can keep listening to the guys that "say so" and I'll keep digging into things to figure it out myself :thumbup:
For anyone else that cares or that might be following this, I'll try to get some logs that best shows what we're talking about here in graph form, that way instead of listening to someone say things that they heard from someone else, everyone will have the raw data to look at.
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Those guys I talked to has an expetional tuning back ground so as racing. I personally doesn't ever heard of you neither kniw who you are.
So you have to understand my point of view. The reason I do not get involved it tuning just listen they opinion , I do not have a money neither a time or the will to having failures. They all have done that and they all learn from it. So I don't need to.
You talking about those guys like "who they are to tell me"..
Well they knwolidge is way beyond your at least for a next couple of years based onthe experince only by the amount of evop and yes evox they tune and tuned. As we talking here most of them is on a test day and tweaking cars. Thye are not find on forums.
But if you want see how they work , I would be happy to intruduce to them. I think it would be a very bebefical for you. They are usually super nice and not kocky people.
After that you can have your personal opinion from them.
It was a convesation for sure but as isadi it is nothing more to say.
I said what personally tuners told me years in building evo race cars. Those tuners are tunning high hp rally cros EU and hill climb - track and rally cars. Since evo 1.
As much as probabaly you donnt like ti I will give them a credit on this.
Good luck in your endevours
Rob
Ps: if you interested to see things and how things been done and where , just let me know and we can cook up something
So you have to understand my point of view. The reason I do not get involved it tuning just listen they opinion , I do not have a money neither a time or the will to having failures. They all have done that and they all learn from it. So I don't need to.
You talking about those guys like "who they are to tell me"..
Well they knwolidge is way beyond your at least for a next couple of years based onthe experince only by the amount of evop and yes evox they tune and tuned. As we talking here most of them is on a test day and tweaking cars. Thye are not find on forums.
But if you want see how they work , I would be happy to intruduce to them. I think it would be a very bebefical for you. They are usually super nice and not kocky people.
After that you can have your personal opinion from them.
It was a convesation for sure but as isadi it is nothing more to say.
I said what personally tuners told me years in building evo race cars. Those tuners are tunning high hp rally cros EU and hill climb - track and rally cars. Since evo 1.
As much as probabaly you donnt like ti I will give them a credit on this.
Good luck in your endevours
Rob
Ps: if you interested to see things and how things been done and where , just let me know and we can cook up something
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I tend to think along the lines of Rob here when defaulting to knowledge of proven tuners but at the same time I have respect for anyone willing to do/try things for them selves.
I would deff like to see some data when you get a chance :thumbup: Personally I could give two shits about vta, AMS intake + recerc DV is plenty loud
, but this whole MAF / MAP thing is interesting for sure.
I would deff like to see some data when you get a chance :thumbup: Personally I could give two shits about vta, AMS intake + recerc DV is plenty loud
, but this whole MAF / MAP thing is interesting for sure.
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think i'll keep my opinions to myself, i've already heard this one from scott speed. :inout:
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I agree with you...when it comes to tried and tested, proven data, I'll listen to anyone out there, especially the big name shops and tuners. I've said it before, I have no disrespect towards anyone, nor do I think I know more than those who have worked to figure things out and brought there findings to the community to share. But if I see something with my own eyes, it's hard for me to believe the exact opposite just because somebody said so and with no data to back it up...that's all I'm sayin...I tend to think along the lines of Rob here when defaulting to knowledge of proven tuners but at the same time I have respect for anyone willing to do/try things for them selves.
I would deff like to see some data when you get a chance :thumbup: Personally I could give two shits about vta, AMS intake + recerc DV is plenty loud
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