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So I've had this license plate frame from the day I.bought the car 3 years ago. The dealer fitted it. I thought.it looked Ok and never took it off. Over the last 3 years I've been pulled over a few times ( in several states) and no police officer has ever mentioned anything abt it. This morning on the way back from court I get pulled over for "inappropriate display of license plate" and also wierdly while running my info the cop drives over the curb and drives away. Had to go to the police station to get my paperwork back along with a ticket. Anyway do you think I can fight this ticket and would the way he conducted the stop help me fight it.

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Guessing that he need to "drop the kids off at the pool" did you notice him pinching his cheeks together as he walk back to his car?
 

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oh and nothing wrong with your plate cover unless laws are are bit tighter there , in VA you can do anything you want to it long as you can read the numbers and the stickers which are clearly not blocked.
 

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Mention that the dealer installed it and how long you have had it. Ask them to review the plate in person and offer to remove it without penalty if they find, under review, it to be improper display. See how they respond and save the "improper procedure" of the officer driving away as gently persuasion.
 

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LOL. I dint notice but he looked " the type" . That's what I thought also abt the frame but he said he couldn't see which state plate it was.

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Mention that the dealer installed it and how long you have had it. Ask them to review the plate in person and offer to remove it without penalty if they find, under review, it to be improper display. See how they respond and save the "improper procedure" of the officer driving away as gently persuasion.
Thanks forthe feedback guys. Im gonna try and do what u suggested djmac.

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That's weird. That's an Ohio plate, and it looks like it's okay for Ohio. Did this happen in Michigan where you're from?
 

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that sucks. I've been rolling around jersey without a front plate for like a month...

Doesn't seem like it would be a problem to me, but just to be sure see if you can find out if the frame is DOT approved. if it isn't molded on the frame itself call the dealer and ask them, or check around online. If it's DOT approved there should be absolutely no case against it
 

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oh and nothing wrong with your plate cover unless laws are are bit tighter there , in VA you can do anything you want to it long as you can read the numbers and the stickers which are clearly not blocked.
you are wrong and should read VA the code:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-716


for the OP always go to court and plead not guilty and calmly and fairly state your case (i would largely ignore the officers actions). being that the cover was affixed by the dealer (take paperwork showing you bought it from said dealer) you have a good chance at a reduction or getting it dropped. also take in a picture showing your removal of the cover now that you are aware of the law.
 

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Aalso, if you can't fight it and win, go back to the dealer, if they installed it on many of their cars (which they probably did), they should have come across this problem before. You could threaten them with legal action for fitting your car with an illegal modification and selling it to you.
I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like a problem that could probably be remedied with the use of one.
 

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oh and nothing wrong with your plate cover unless laws are are bit tighter there , in VA you can do anything you want to it long as you can read the numbers and the stickers which are clearly not blocked.
well said, in cali here all numbers and stickers need to be visible, and parallel to the ground (no problem here) my dad too got pulled over out in like ohio for this very same reason, he was fucking with him, because he was an out of state car, and hes Mexican. was it a fix it ticket? if so its prob not worth fighting (nor do i think you can) my best bet would prob be pleading not guilty, and on your court date show a picture of your license (just like you did here) and maybe get it dismissed? again prob not worth a 20 dollar fix it ticket imo
 

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Aalso, if you can't fight it and win, go back to the dealer, if they installed it on many of their cars (which they probably did), they should have come across this problem before. You could threaten them with legal action for fitting your car with an illegal modification and selling it to you.
I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like a problem that could probably be remedied with the use of one.
with all do respect, thats just stupid, just leave the dealer out of it, your best bet.... look for the vc (vehicle code) he sited you for, and understand it 100% and if you want, print it out so the next time an officer says "i pulled you over for your rear license plate" then reach in your glove compartment and show them the paper work BEFORE he writes you the ticket so you wont be in this situation again
 

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That's weird. That's an Ohio plate, and it looks like it's okay for Ohio. Did this happen in Michigan where you're from?
my Uncle and I bought the car together in ohio, he lives there, registered in ohio. Im in michigan and the car spends most of its time here.

Some other states have similar laws. Probably cause the red light and speed cameras can't auto-magically ID the state of origin.


http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2008/12/10/20081210platecover1210.html
I figured its something to do with that but no cop has ever even taken a second look at it.

that sucks. I've been rolling around jersey without a front plate for like a month...

Doesn't seem like it would be a problem to me, but just to be sure see if you can find out if the frame is DOT approved. if it isn't molded on the frame itself call the dealer and ask them, or check around online. If it's DOT approved there should be absolutely no case against it
No idea if it is, im gonna check!

you are wrong and should read VA the code:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-716


for the OP always go to court and plead not guilty and calmly and fairly state your case (i would largely ignore the officers actions). being that the cover was affixed by the dealer (take paperwork showing you bought it from said dealer) you have a good chance at a reduction or getting it dropped. also take in a picture showing your removal of the cover now that you are aware of the law.
with all do respect, thats just stupid, just leave the dealer out of it, your best bet.... look for the vc (vehicle code) he sited you for, and understand it 100% and if you want, print it out so the next time an officer says "i pulled you over for your rear license plate" then reach in your glove compartment and show them the paper work BEFORE he writes you the ticket so you wont be in this situation again
^^ Thanks, definately gonna try both of these
 

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Aalso, if you can't fight it and win, go back to the dealer, if they installed it on many of their cars (which they probably did), they should have come across this problem before. You could threaten them with legal action for fitting your car with an illegal modification and selling it to you.
I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like a problem that could probably be remedied with the use of one.

The dealer is in ohio and my car is in michigan so im just gonna have to call them
 

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I just got a ticket this past fall in a rental car for that same reason, they couldn't read the state.

I tried to fight it but the guy was like, well I could give you a speeding ticket....so I opted for the frame ticket. Then made enterprise pay it.
 

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When I had my old chevy tracker, I never had this problem in PA. Then, I moved to CT and got pulled over twice because the name of the state was blocked. Somehow, I got a warning each time. Coincidentally, I bought a new frame for the Evo today.
 

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When I had my old chevy tracker, I never had this problem in PA. Then, I moved to CT and got pulled over twice because the name of the state was blocked. Somehow, I got a warning each time. Coincidentally, I bought a new frame for the Evo today.
you were lucky in PA, they have the same law that you can not obstruct any part of the state or logo (i grew up there and best friend is now a trooper)
 

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The dealer is in ohio and my car is in michigan so im just gonna have to call them
Well that explains it. Fuck Michigan and everyone from Michigan. Skunk Weasels FTL. That sucks dude.
 

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Most of the state-covering laws just went into effect in the last year or two. So what the dealer did three years ago is totally irrelevant.

You can't cover the state name, the tags or any of the numbers/letters. Some states don't like it if you cover up the state logo either.

I, personally, prefer fresh mud to obscure plate numbers.
 
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