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When I bought my 08 evo a week ago the dealer told me I need to warm up the clutch in the car. When I start up my car I usually let it warm up for about 5 minutes or until I see the temp gauge start moving. The first few shifts from first to second are usually pretty rough and I need to ease it into second or ill get a grinding noise as it goes into gear. It really only happens when I turn the car on after leaving it off for the night. Is this normal? Or is this a sign of transmission or clutch problems in the near future? Thanks
 

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He told you to "warm up the clutch"? Like... Exactly those words? Go back and punch him in the head.

Jeeez.
 

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When I start up my car I usually let it warm up for about 5 minutes or until I see the temp gauge start moving.
Stop doing that. Five minutes is 4.8 minutes too long.

As soon as the engine gets oil pressure (like ten seconds), drive it. Letting it sit and idle does nothing for warming up the rest of the driveline: gearbox, differentials, u-joints, CV joints, brakes, tyres, ...
 

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Stop doing that. Five minutes is 4.8 minutes too long.

As soon as the engine gets oil pressure (like ten seconds), drive it. Letting it sit and idle does nothing for warming up the rest of the driveline: gearbox, differentials, u-joints, CV joints, brakes, tyres, ...
You must not drive in cold weather :p
 

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Driving in a non-spirited fashion warms things up faster than idling in the driveway and doesn't do any harm to the car. Most dealers say that cars don't need to be "warmed up" anymore. But there's no reason to believe much of what they say anyway.
 

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Are you speaking about driver comfort?

I'm speaking about what's best for the vehicle. I'm totally unconcerned with driver and passenger comfort
Oil needs to get to temp before it can effectively do its job. When its 20 degree's out it takes a little longer to reach the proper temp/viscosity. Am I wrong to think that if the oil isn't viscus enough it wont protect the engine? Granted I'm not talking about catastrophic engine failure but over time that could kill the life of the engine right?

Just my thoughts, nothing concrete to back that up.


Wear a jacket and gloves.
lol I usually do, still haven't adjusted back to New England weather :p
 

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You can help that an better protect your drive train with better oil. Check Motul.
:+1: the Mitsi Tranny oil is not very good. Once you have changed to a better fluid the difference is noticable.

He told you to "warm up the clutch"? Like... Exactly those words? Go back and punch him in the head.

Jeeez.
Lol, I wondered the same when I read this thread title!!
 

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Oil needs to get to temp before it can effectively do its job. When its 20 degree's out it takes a little longer to reach the proper temp/viscosity. Am I wrong to think that if the oil isn't viscus enough it wont protect the engine? Granted I'm not talking about catastrophic engine failure but over time that could kill the life of the engine right?

Just my thoughts, nothing concrete to back that up.




lol I usually do, still haven't adjusted back to New England weather :p
More RPM means more oil pressure and more circulation which in turn will create more heat. 5w30 will flow pretty well when cold and lets not forget that oil is actually a bearing and does not drain completely into the pan. It sticks to all of the components unless it is forced out.

That being said, I start my car and drive. Funny, BMW's M cars specifically state not to let the car idle to warm up. They give temp and rpm ratios for when you can drive like you stole it.
 
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