Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution Forum banner
1 - 20 of 29 Posts

· Registered
Joined
·
6,969 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
Has anyone seen the dyno on the Works drop in filter? It shows an increase of 27hp and 13tq with just a drop in. Thats as good as the ams cai and cost less the half and is half the work. Does this sound realistic for a drop in? 27hp on drop-in seems like a huge gain. Is works a reliable source for EVO stuff I havent heard anyone talk about them on this forum, and they are only mentioned some on evom forum.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
847 Posts
I think you should ask yourself, "Do they use it on their own shop car and if not, why?" Far too many people are hell-bent on dyno numbers and who's to say that they aren't fudging their numbers? Remember, they aren't running a charity. They are in the business of selling parts to you, me and all the other Evo X owners out there and they certainly aren't going to do it by posting low numbers. I mean, does any guy really go out to a club and try picking up the hottest chick in there with the line 'I have a below average sized dong'? Just keep in mind that it's your money, until you hand it over. You have the duty and obligation as a consumer to find out the true value of what you intend to buy instead of just looking at a price tag, because in the end, you'll just be spending more. As the old saying goes:

It's funny how people don't have the time to do things right the first time, but find time to do things over.

Note to yourself how long a manufacturer has been doing their thing, their quality control, their reputation, their R&D and finally the price, because all things equal, you get what you pay for. Just ask yourself, if the HKS, Buschur, AMS and Works intakes were the same price, which one would you buy?

There's a saying in Japan: True craftsmanship is priceless.
There's another saying: Americans have no eye for craftsmanship.

You purchased a performance vehicle for a little more than I spend on porn in a year, don't you want the best for it? I mean, that's like saying to throw in the Chevron conventional oil into your engine just because it's half the price of Mobil 1.
 

· [Rally Driving Madman]
Joined
·
2,506 Posts
Results are maybe true, but if you drop that air filter in the already leaned out X with the factory drop in, difference would be less then you think, way less... :)
The main reason is why the number are so big , because the X is SOOO rich from factory. And the filter lean it out more. So its a COMBINATION of both , not just a filter alone.
I bet the HKS drop in does a same or even more. :) But some how nobody test it here ... And cost 1/3 the price.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
2,903 Posts
You purchased a performance vehicle for a little more than I spend on porn in a year, don't you want the best for it? I mean, that's like saying to throw in the Chevron conventional oil into your engine just because it's half the price of Mobil 1.
:bowlol:
Ah ha. I agree with the points you made, I just wanted to show my support for your sense of humour.

Many people seem to be looking at only the price of the various intakes. The most expensive does not always mean the best, while the least expensive does not mean the worst! Take a look into the quality of each, look at what other people are saying.

Regardless, the Works drop in does show an improvement. Whether it is 27whp or not, it is an effective upgrade.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
6,969 Posts
Discussion Starter · #7 ·
Im not looking to go cheap. Im was just wondering if Works makes a good product. Im sure the cone set up would be better, and that is probably what Ill do. I thought this would be a good add on why I wait for other companies to fine tune their cone systems. (It seems to me alot of people are having problems with the AMS fit, so I was going to wait for others to be released) I was just throwing this out there to get some opinions.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
227 Posts
There's a guy over on the 'other' forum who got 9 hp on a dyno dynamics (not dynapack). The title of that thread was "Works filter and Hallman MBC independent dyno test inside" in case anyone's interested.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
6,969 Posts
Discussion Starter · #11 ·
Im sure anything that leans out the car at this point will be a vast improvement. I will say I have yet to see a drop in the claimed less than 10hp, which is pretty cheap hp compared to other mods that give you 10-15hp i.e. exhaust 600+(12-17hp), downpipes 150+(???some say doesn't help the X), testpipes150+(5-10hp), and IC pipes(5-15hp) 500+ for upper and lower. (I just took these increase in hp right of the web site HKS,AMS,Bushur). All these mods net about about the same or just a little horse power gain. Now some of them do help with the turbo spooling better so earlier hp, but not much gain over just a $32HKS dropin(12-14hp). Can you feel 10hp probably not, but you keep adding 10hp over 5 mods and you will feel 50 though. If I sound stupid forgive me I new to a lot of this.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
847 Posts
One of the first things you'll need to learn is that the effective increase in horsepower for each modification is not directly cumulative. So if 5 modifications each individually gained 10 horsepower each, it does not mean that together they will make a straight 50. But you'll learn that with time. We all did. =).
 

· Registered
Joined
·
375 Posts
Sometimes letting more air in you can gain like 20 hp.
or if you hadn't done that and you just did exhaust, to let more air out, you could gain like 20 hp.
But adding them together isn't necessarily 40 hp. It could be 50, or 30 when combined. Combining mods can give different effects. R&D is always important.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
6,969 Posts
Discussion Starter · #14 ·
I figured there would be some mixing in there with some of the mods gain a little more here and a little less there. My point was form all the claims by every one a drop in that gets u 12-14 hp for $32 is a very easy way to start hell you could leave the dealer with one of those in lol. Cheapest 12hp you will ever get that probably wont break your car.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
375 Posts
I personally wouldn't waste the cash on a drop in, and I don't believe 27awhp for a second from a drop in.
I'm not saying its a total waste, especially if there's a gain, but if you decide to go CAI later, then u wasted the $ on the drop in. And the price of the cheapest drop in is halfway to the price of the perrin MBC, which will yield some serious hp gains (granted you also need a gauge for this upgrade, which you would prolly do nEway)
 

· Registered
Joined
·
6,969 Posts
Discussion Starter · #16 ·
I personally wouldn't waste the cash on a drop in, and I don't believe 27awhp for a second from a drop in.
I'm not saying its a total waste, especially if there's a gain, but if you decide to go CAI later, then u wasted the $ on the drop in. And the price of the cheapest drop in is halfway to the price of the perrin MBC, which will yield some serious hp gains (granted you also need a gauge for this upgrade, which you would prolly do nEway)
$32hks dollars is a pretty cheap drop in though. True works is 120 though. For $32 I would drop one in why i make a decision on something bigger.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
392 Posts
Their dyno look strange. Anyways, the filter will not give you 27hp. These are just intakes and better flowing filters, don't be silly thinking there are insane gains. Intake is a great idea. Specially with a exhaust combo to help the car breathe better. It will dyno better but 27whp from an intake? ...I say hell no not on a respectable dyno.
 

· Registered
Joined
·
448 Posts
One of the first things you'll need to learn is that the effective increase in horsepower for each modification is not directly cumulative. So if 5 modifications each individually gained 10 horsepower each, it does not mean that together they will make a straight 50. But you'll learn that with time. We all did. =).
:+1:

So many people do not understand this...
...well this and speed calculators.
 

· Banned
Joined
·
1,869 Posts
Im going to chime in on this...
Baseline 245whp on a Dynapack.
After I added Turbotrix Piping kit, turbo-back exhaust and intercooler. My baseline was 266.6whp
After a tune I netted an additional 50whp.

WORKS releases P2 Brain flashes, maybe they used one of there tuning tricks to up the actual whp
 
1 - 20 of 29 Posts
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top