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How to tune for your intake using your AP and AccessTunerRace

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#1 · (Edited)
How to tune your AP for your intake;

First off let me point out how important it is to have this done correctly. The cars ECU bases nearly all the important tables on your MAF readings. The MAF turns voltage readings into to a calculation of the amount of air entering the engine.
A hot wire mass airflow sensor determines the mass of air flowing into the engine’s air intake system. The theory of operation of the hot wire mass airflow sensor is similar to that of the hot wire anemometer (which determines air velocity). The Buick motor division (GM) was the first car company to use the hot wire sensor. This is achieved by heating a wire with an electric current that is suspended in the engine’s air stream, like a toaster wire. The wire's electrical resistance increases as the wire’s temperature increases, which limits electrical current flowing through the circuit. When air flows past the wire, the wire cools, decreasing its resistance, which in turn allows more current to flow through the circuit. As more current flows, the wire’s temperature increases until the resistance reaches equilibrium again. The amount of current required to maintain the wire’s temperature is directly proportional to the mass of air flowing past the wire. The integrated electronic circuit converts the measurement of current into a voltage signal which is sent to the ECU.
If air density increases due to pressure increase or temperature drop, but the air volume remains constant, the denser air will remove more heat from the wire indicating a higher mass airflow. Unlike the vane meter's paddle sensing element, the hot wire responds directly to air density. This sensor's capabilities are well suited to support the gasoline combustion process which fundamentally responds to air mass, not air volume.
(Stolen from WIKI)
Now with that explained we can move on to how this is used.
Calculated load; This is really a mathematical equation of the amount of fuel and air entering the combustion chamber. The higher the amount of fuel and air the higher the calculated load which equates to power. Now without getting to in depth on the math of it this is important because this value is what your car bases boost off of.
Say you have a load value of 265 in your table, depending on the ambient temps and barometric pressure your car may need 24-28 psi of boost to reach this load value. This is because colder air is denser than hot so there are more oxygen molecules per square inch to burn your fuel. This is why some of you will notice after your tuned using the stock system your boost will fluctuate with ambient temperatures.
So lets move on to preparing for the tuning part. You will need ATR (AccessTunerRace) and a laptop to run it. You can get ATR here by filling out the survey and entering the serial # in for your AP; http://accessecu.com/register/cobb.php
As of now it only works for 32bit XP and Vista computers but Cobb just released a 64bit version for AP manager and Updater so hopefully ATR won't be far behind. This is available through this page; http://accessecu.com/register/64bitbeta.php
Be sure to get the right one for your computer. To do this go to your “My Computer” icon right click à Properties à and under system type it will say 32 or 64 bit. Sorry Mac users nada support for you.
Once you have that loaded on to your computer get your AP ready because it will have you plug it in during the install to verify and select the correct drivers. (I have a feeling my PM box is about to fill with questions lol)
Next download the current (BETA) firmware for your AP, and a new map containing an intake that resembles the one you have. Pay close attention to the MAF housing size for selection.
Ok now your ready to start logging data for your tune! For this portion of tuning you DO NOT need a wideband. This will all be light throttle closed loop tuning so you won’t be experiencing any lean conditions that will harm your car. Beyond this step though you should not proceed with tuning without one. Also be aware that ATR software is only compatible with a select amount of wide bands.

Step 1;
Load your map on to the ECU and get your laptop situated and ready to log. Once the map is loaded start your car and connect the laptop to the OBD2 port. Start ATR and get your options set (It’s a good idea to read the help file before hand if you have not used ATR before). Once connected and still at idle CNTRL+F will bring up your options menu Note; you will get different options menus depeding on if your connected to the ECU configer both options menus. Select the parameters you wish to log and what you want to see on your dash board (This has to be done while connected to the ECU). For intake tuning you will need to log; LTFT, STFT, and MAF volt. Try not to log more than 12 items at a time because it will slow down how often it pulls them. CNTRL+L will connect you to the ECU, and CNTRL+B to bring up your dash board. (I forgot to tell you but add ECT (Engine coolant temp) to your dash board so you can view it here. If it is between 175 and 180 go ahead and shut the car down (Plus your computer if your using battery power).

Step 2;
Your car is warm, your new map is loaded, you have made sure that you can connect with ATR and you have selected all the correct parameters to log. Good now unhook the positive side of your battery so you can reset your ECU. This is to make sure that all save long term fuel trims are wiped clean from the memory so your logs aren’t contaminated for tuning. Once the positive terminal is disconnected hold your brake pedal down for about a minute then let the car sit for about 10 minutes. When this is done and you reconnect your battery your clock should say 1:00 and all your preset radio stations should be gone. If not disconnect again and add a few minutes.

Step 3;
Everything is reset now and clean so you can start your car, connect ATR (CNTRL+L) bring up your dashboard (CNTRL+B) and start logging (CNTRL+D). You will know your logging if you look down in the bottom right hand side of the screen it will say it in a small box there. Now you can start your drive using only light consistent throttle movement without getting into boost. TIP; (If you are familiar with ATR you can lower your load levels in the target tables to be sure you don’t get into boost.) Now get in about 10 – 20 minutes of cruising in various gears at low rpms making sure not to have any sudden throttle movements. This will cause a fuel enrichment you don’t want. When your cruise is done hit (CNTRL+D) again to stop logging and save the file.
 

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Step 4;
Clear out a good hour of your life for some excel math compiling. What your going to do here is figure out your total trim. So before you go making changes to your log copy and paste it un touched to another location so if you mess something up you don’t have to do the other steps again. I have attached a couple of these already done for you to reference. One was done by Tim Bailey, he is one of the head tuners for Cobb and the man who developed the all the maps for the EvoX on their site. So what your going to do is arrange your log just like the ones I have attached. Now highlight the colum with the MAF (V) and hit the sort ascending button in excel, also be sure to choose expand the selection so it does all the columns together. Then your going to add your LTFT (Long term fuel trim) to your STFT (Short term fuel trim) for the total trim. Use the attached file to see the coding in the cells. If you aren’t familiar with excel find a small child or Asian to help you. Tim uses a graph on his to he can visualize where the deficiencies are are in the trims, mine I just go by the numbers. Once you have all the total trims figured its time to sort them out and get your averages for each voltage section. This is very time consuming. I have attached a small excel doc that I use for a cheat sheet that has the ATR volt ranges on it. It’s the one titled cheat sheet. Open this beside your log to do so you will have to hit the restore down button in the top right corner of the window between the minimize and close buttons. Manually resize and position both windows to fit so you can see the data you need.
Since your columns are sort ascending by voltage reference look to see what your first voltage reading is. Should be about 1.29 or higher. Start with your lowest value and reference it to the voltage in the cheat sheet marked in red. So example if your lowest value is 1.29 then in the cheat sheet the next value is 1.33 you need to get the average of all the numbers between. Lets say your total trim or correction you figured is in colum X you want to get an average of everything from 1.29 to 1.32 volts and those values are between lines 2 to 32 your equation will look like this “=average(X2:X32)” so lets say that average was 8.25 that’s the percent of correction for fuel your ECU is adding for your intake at that range. Once you get all of them up to 2.66 volts you will then need to add them to your map. (It will be the same map you logged with)

Step 5;
Adding your values to your map in ATR. So now you have the correction calculated all the way through 2.66 volts, that’s as high as you need to go. Everything from 2.66-5 will be an average of all your correction but we will get to that here in a bit. So lets get back to how you add these. You got them all broke down by the voltage they correspond to so lets do a few examples of how to add them in. From the voltage range of 1.29-1.32 lets say you came up with a value of 8.25. To add that highlight the 1.29 cell and hit the (M) key. This will bring up the floating value menu. Your 8.25 is a percent value so its 8.25% to add it in using this menu you enter 1.0825. If your value was 20% you would enter 1.20. Make sense? So what if you had a negative value? Lets say you had -8.25% then you would enter .9175 or if it were -20% you would enter .80 make sure you don’t enter them incorrectly or you end up with a hole in your map.
Once all the values are entered in from your lowest # to 2.66 it time to do everything above that which is easy. Take and get the total average of everything from your lowest trim to 2.66V and your going to add that to everything above 2.66. So lets say the total average correction was 10.5, highlight all the cells from 2.66 and above hit the (M) key and enter 1.105 and your done. The reason for this is the ECU basically switches to open loop above these values. Now save your map as a master for other maps and your done. It is a good idea to keep repeating this process though until your total correction is below 5%, however you will never get it perfect because of environment variables.

This is what it will look like when you enter the values in;
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Be sure to only change the Mass Air Flow Sensor Calibration table not the Compensation one. Good luck and ask questions I will help as much as possiable.
 
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Alternative to unplugging your battery to reset the fuel trims is to disconnect the ECU which is alot easier. Disconnect it for 5 seconds and your trim will zero out. This way you wont lose your radio/navi settings or anything else that you lose from disconnecting the battery.
I learned this since I had to reset the trims so many times for dialing in my injectors & intake :)
 
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#10 ·
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar for doing this! :thumbup:
 
#13 ·
THere are a couple reasons, one of them being its just the wrong table period. The second being the fact that you could add 50% to the entire table today and nothing will happen, but ond day your car may start running like crap. I have tweaked nearly every table to see what it will actually do, and this one looks like it is actually a base table that is referenced to not from. I believe it is interpolated from on a % depending on IAT's but I haven't done enough testing to say for sure.

Also just a heads up for those of you who tend to color outside the lines. When you start playing with tables in ATR know that some of the tables are mis-named and some have the wrong values. The fuel tables fall under this situation, and fuel table HIGH DET A is not referenced during high knock activity. THis table is actually what AFR's you will see durring a light throttle cruise. So when you guys notice these things please email Cobb to let them know and can fix these issues.
 
#24 ·
Not sure why no body stickied this yet.

For ECUFLASH, just use LTFT Cruise + STFT.

Leave LTFT Idle out of it. Unless you are tuning just idle... not sure why you would want to do it.
 
#26 ·
So I decided to scale my MAF for shits and giggles...

Came up with my overall average correction of...

From 1.29 to 2.70 volts
-0.02043
Yeah I am that good...

Scaling and setting up your injector latencies does miracles...

My deviation was a 1%... this was after a 30 min drive. :D
 
#27 ·
I have installed the AMS CAI. My LTFTs are +12.5%. Do you think setting just the Injector Latencies and Scale would be enough to make my Evo runs safe at track? Will this MAF rescalling totally replace injector scale/latency tweakings?

I think I could make a program to make this maf rescaling easier with EcuFlash. You would input your current rom hex file + evoscan logs, and it would provides you with the numbers to use. Actually, I could even write them to the hex file, but it would be too risky.

Another question: would I need to recalculate these maf settings again, after adjusting the Fuel Tables?

Thank you,
Ziki
 
#31 ·
LOL. I use a PLX and log it seperately using PLX Logger 3.0. It's a pita though. The old Innovate LC-1 is compatible. The AEM is not.
 
#34 ·
Ok, so I finally had the opportunity to do this. Previously, I had just scaled my injectors all screwy to make up for the intake.

I have this problem where I like making very complicated spreadsheets that do all the work for you, so I'm thinking some of you will benefit from it. I'll clean it up and make it "user friendly", and I'll let it into the wild. Turns the "hour of excel" into about 1 minute if you are a slow copy-and-paster.
 
#35 · (Edited)
Ok, here we go.

This is a "beta" release. It is NOT optimized, expect it to take a few seconds to open. It is tailored more towards ECUFlash users, but will work just fine for ATR. If there is enough interest, I'll make it a little easier for copy/pasting ATR and other scalings in.

If some people that have already done this and have logs/changed values/records could "test" it, I'd appreciate it. Until people have tested it with success, I'd try both manually calculating and comparing it to the values obtained through this. I haven't made any mistakes in a while now, but you never know ;)


Let me know if it works for you.