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main bolts vs studs

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#1 ·
Hi Guys,

Does anyone have any _real_ experience when choosing main bolts/studs?

specifically - when and why should I be changing the stock bolts to studs?

Also I see that ARP make "Main Bolts" AND "Main Studs". Whats the difference?

I understand that when going from Bolts -> Studs you should get your block align honed to make sure there wasn't any distortion when installing the studs.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers
D.
 
#2 ·
no takers?

I guess I will have to wait for ARP to reply :)
 
#5 ·
Bump for more knowledge.
:tmyk:
 
#6 · (Edited)
main studs are just more insurance. not really a must unless going for big power. most people do them when building an engine as a precaution and why not while your already inside the motor. small cost for more insurance. hard to put a hard horse power # were studs are needed due to lack of them failing. not sure if it can be proven on any 4b11 fail yet. the evo 4b11 has a 4 bolt main anyway. if your on a super tight budget it would be a corner to cut. who knows if the block or sleeves are even good for a long period of time at high power levels, just to new to tell.
 
#7 ·
basically, for 100 bucks, do them. They'll require an align hone, which will cost a bit too, but in the end its the proper way to build a motor.
 
#9 ·
reply from ARP:

Regardless of bolts or studs when switching from the factory bolts you
should have the line bore checked, it is always a good idea to switch to
studs whenever possible, they will give you a much more accurate torque
and the preload will be much more precise, Plus they will not have the
torque scatter or twisting torque that you get from a bolt.
Not particularly useful...

So I don't really see the need to upgrade to aftermarket units at al..
 
#11 ·
at what tq level do you think they need to be changed?
 
#12 ·
It is one of those, what the hell, the engine is apart anyway items. Do you need to do it? No. Should you? I don't know. Did I? Yes.

Most major motor builds replace the stock bolts with stronger studs. When you're spending 10K+ to build a motor, what the hell is 450 bucks?
 
#13 ·
because less is more IMHO :)

the less things I need to change the better...

need being the operative word :)
 
#14 ·
:+1:Less new points of failure.
 
#15 ·
ermm.. replacing w/ arp main studs eliminates a point of failure, not introduces a new one.
 
#17 ·
Hi Guys,

Does anyone have any _real_ experience when choosing main bolts/studs?

specifically - when and why should I be changing the stock bolts to studs?

Also I see that ARP make "Main Bolts" AND "Main Studs". Whats the difference?

I understand that when going from Bolts -> Studs you should get your block align honed to make sure there wasn't any distortion when installing the studs.

Thanks in advance!

Cheers
D.

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#19 ·
why is that?