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Perrin BOV *Thoughts*

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Perrin BOV *Thoughts* / Review

So I have a lot of things going on with my car and am down to making it all work together like the Smurfs picking berries. Myself and the infamous Joey "The Stig" Hauser are heading to PDX in February to fine tune our beasts on Surgeline's Mustang dyno.
With me being the paranoid anal engineer that I am.... I want to make sure the 16 hour round trip drive isn't a wasted one. So I am deciding to grab a spare BOV and right now from a simplistic design perspective the Perrin looks like a really good set up. It can be used as push or pull style and simplistic spring set up to ensure minimal issues.

Here is the design, let me know any experiences with this BOV or your thoughts on function and possible issues.

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Also this PDF has a great little side cut away that shows everything pretty good.
http://www.perrinperformance.com/shared/PERRIN/documents/instructions/universal/asmint600.pdf

REVIEW

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I have to say I'm impressed so far by the response and control of this BOV. I've tested it up to 33psi with no leaks or issues just holds tight.
There is a hint of stutter though if your right at the point of building boost and you feather the throttle. You almost have to try to make it happen though and I think part of the issue is a missing O-ring from my internal shuttle valve.
Really the benefit over stock is the ability to hold an infinite amount more boost. If your not running high boost levels than the stocker is your best bet but this one will look better :shades:

Side note this BOV can be set up in either direction. You'll notice in my pic above I set it up to have the boost hold the valve closed. This keeps the higher boost pressure from opening the pop off too early. So to summarize I'm very happy with its performance and so far no issues with this. :rock:
 

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buy it and drive around with it for a while before you get tuned. youll know in a week if its gonna throw codes or leak. But im sure it will work great.
 
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I think with all these valves if they do not have reference port like the stock valve they typical modulate worse on throttle changes but hold boost much better.

I have no idea who even produces a valve with a reference port like the stock one is designed.
 
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Doesn't the Synapse (synchronic) blow off valve use a refference port?

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#10 ·
damn... so your saying I am going to have to look for an older one then..
 
#11 ·
You can still buy the older one but in universal application, the evo specific kit only has the new version.
 
#15 ·
I'm pretty sure I know how this valve will work... like every other valve works beside the stock one.
 
#16 ·
I have a Forge RS on my car and it works just fine.
 
#17 ·
Never worked fine on my car... nor any type of gradient. You must live on the salt flats...

Car threw a limp mode p1241 not matter what setting that valve was on soft/hard or anything in between.
 
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#24 ·
I think part throttle is where most BOV's fail. I know on the VIII, the Forge had all sorts of issues and made it a PITA. I will say the APS (twin vent) and HKS re-ric'd seemed to work the best. I want to say the APS twin vent almost seemed faster reacting...I don't think APS makes much for the X, do they?
 
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I picked up a APS Twin Vent... however they are all on back order for 6-8 weeks. LOL So it will be a while before I review it on the X.
 
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You have to make it modulate, but I am running it as a pull style where boost holds it closed. You do have to run it on the least amount of spring tension so you don't get the modulation. Here recently I dropped in a lighter spring I had from a Forge WG and now you have to try and make it modulate.
 
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To my understanding the only job of the spring is to keep the valve closed, but the way the OP has his installed the air pressure in the intercooler pipes is keeping it shut, so the spring isn't doing too much. Now when the valve opens, it has to compress the spring, making it harder to open. So I guess you might get faster lift without the spring, but I have no idea.
 
#34 ·
The spring pressure really isn't enough to keep it closed, the spring is just to send the shuttle back down when on vacuum so boost doesn't pin it open. If you install it the other way its supposed to be the same pressure on both sides, there by holding it closed.
 
#35 ·
The spring is to hold the valve closed at idle. They say you can run the BOV without a spring since boost pressure will hold the valve closed when the throttle is open, but at idle it would pull wide open without a spring. On any adjustable BOV, you tighten the spring down just enough to hold the BOV closed at idle, that way it stays as responsive as it can be when it needs to open.
 
#37 ·
Exactly what he said. On the greddy type-S, you tightened the bolt down to the point where no leaks at idle and put the re-circ back on. Those old gredfdy type-s purple valves were sooo good. The new type RS junk has crappy diaphrams and doesn't work worth a damn...
 
#36 ·
Yeah, without the spring, the car would feel way more unresponsive when not in boost.
 
#38 ·
FYI - the new Synapse BOV has the port C reference built into the flange now. So one less vacuum line to plumb. Also the APS BOV avoids the fluttering issues because it is actually slow reacting and therefore dampens out the part throttle pressure modulation that you hear as flutter on other BOV. I used to use the APS and the piston slides on a rubber O-ring which effectively slows the piston down.
 
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Also the APS BOV avoids the fluttering issues because it is actually slow reacting and therefore dampens out the part throttle pressure modulation that you hear as flutter on other BOV. I used to use the APS and the piston slides on a rubber O-ring which effectively slows the piston down.
That's actually backwards. When the valve is slow reacting is when you hear the fluttering. The air backs up and surges the turbo for a split second before the BOV actually cracks open. If you have a fast reacting BOV, it'll open immediately with no delay and no time to surge the turbo, hence, no fluttering.