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walbro 450 and fuel line return questions

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19K views 21 replies 7 participants last post by  05orangeSS  
#1 ·
I been searching up and down and am stumped on what route to go with.
2014 evo x - going to get dual map tuned on saturday - doing a 93 and e85 map
mods are: ams downpipe , speed circuit test pipe, summit racing 3in electric cutout, 3 inch cat back exhaust, grimm speed 3 port, k&n typhoon kit intake kit with uicp , ets 3inch fmic, ets licp

parts to install before tune: id 1000 injectors, walbro 450 with blaq ops kit, and zeitronix ethanol analyzer guage

trying to make at least 400hp :rock:


** I was going to hard wire my fuel pump but am having second thoughts on hard wiring it. i am still on a stock fuel rail and do not have a aftermarket FPR.

Should i hard wire it or not?

also was reading on a fuel return problem with the 450 pumps and how a lot of pressure is created in the return line and that the housing needs to be modified but have also read that it is not needed to modifying it.


if any one can give me some advice that would be great thanks
 
#2 ·
you have to hardwire a 450 it pulls to many amps for stock wires.
you have to drill out the return make the hole bigger.
you should prob buy a fpr just to make sure i did.
and you will not make 400whp on a stock turbo and stock intercooler if i was you save up buy a intercooler at least. with full bolt ons you can make 375 to 400 if you have a special car haha. this is on e85 on pump you will make about 330
 
#5 ·
There really is no need to hardwire the pump. The stock wiring will give it enough juice to work just fine. Hardwiring it will just cause it to spin full speed all the time. This will cause your base fuel pressure to be even higher, and cause the pump to work harder and thus fail earlier.
 
#10 ·
IT will give it the power......... Like said above, the wires are not big enough to support the amp load, You will melt the wires if you do stock wires to a walbro 450. DO not put a walbro 450 in on stock wires you will melt your car down.
 
#6 · (Edited)
Stock does have a variable voltage (something like 7/12 or 9/12) built in but I do not believe the oem wiring gauge will support what the 450 will draw for an extended length of time. Had a friend that had no problems at all running a larger pump on his oem wiring (different car) for a couple years and then one day it caught fire.

Also, lots of cars run constant full voltage without issue or premature pump failure.
 
#7 ·
Not sure why you wouldn't just get an ASNU direct replacement 330 lph pump and keep the OEM wiring. You're not going to make 400 hp ever on the stock turbo by the way.....
 
#12 ·
Bro I did 600 stock snail
 
#14 ·
you guys are trying have this guys caught on fire dont you guys know any thing about to many amps on small wire IT goes up in flames hahahah
 
#17 ·
It does not make sense cause you don't know what your talking about.
Pump is fed power but with power comes amps amps make heat.
The stock pump only draws so many amps that pump draws sit more then stock
 
#18 · (Edited)
You can draw more amperage than the gauge of the wiring is designed to handle. The higher the fuel pressure the pump is fighting against or trying the maintain the more amperage it draws, so at higher base pressure or especially in boost you are drawing more amperage. Hence why hardwiring it you would use something like 10 GA with a 30A fuse especially for something like the 450 which will draw over 20A at times.
 
#21 ·
Personally wouldn't run a 450 on oem wiring but to each his own.
 
#22 ·
I'm not sure why people ask for recommendations and then do what they want anyway. Like has been stated before you don't need a walbro 450 pump to use e85 on the stock turbo. I have THE FASTEST stock turbo X on earth and I use a 255 walbro pump. The ASNU direct fit pump is more than enough for what you need