FIRST! Sub'd for interesting data from super tunar.

 

this is a solid idea. Any possibility in just testing a test pipe then just testing bcs individually? bcs and tp definitely changes the curve.

 

Interesting results!

Is there a build soon to follow? Or is this it :dancebanana:

 

since the Bilsteins are sitting, ever considered sending them off for re-valving? (since most people never opt to do it since it would leave their car on jacks through the process)

good to see you back either way

 

I've read that the re-valve Bilsteins are a bit brutal. I bought the Bilsteins to actually get a better ride then the GSR KYB's. The car is a bit harsh for me currently.

 

I think you should try a cosworth panel before you go aem.


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I think you should try a cosworth panel before you go aem.

I have a HKS panel sitting around that I could throw in and see what it does. Might be an interesting test.

I did it awhile ago on the 10's on the Mustang dyno at GST and saw almost zero difference between the OEM panel and aftermarket panel when tuned (not tuned was a different story), but that was on 91 oct and not the boost I am running on E85.

Might be worth a try.

 

This is just proof that the car's safe potential is mostly underutilized from the factory. Imagine what the naysayers would have thought had the X come from the factory with just a more aggressive tune and upgraded boost solenoid? Even on 93 the gains would be noticeable and would totally change the initial perception of the platform.

Razor, you've always impressed me with your professional, scientific approach to tuning, and I always loved your Ralliart build. Glad to see you back, man.

 

This is just proof that the car's safe potential is mostly underutilized from the factory.

I forgot what a stock 10 felt like. It's sloooowwwwww... my first WOT in this 10 when it was stock was very underwhelming... probably one of the reasons I added 100whp before it even hit 1,000 miles....ahahh

 

So when are you gonna start tuning customers again? I live nearby and really don't wanna go to EQ or FFTEC lol


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Before you do a the intake, can you do post a 91 octane tune & pull. Would be interested to see benefits of E85 alone on this build.

 

You can probably get away with more boost on e85.

Interested in seeing your intake results.

 

You can probably get away with more boost on e85.

I stated in the first post why I'm not running more boost.

 

sub'd for awesomeness and learning potential.

 

wow awesome numbers, I knew the car had more in it. Just a testpipe and 3port with e85 mods jeeeeeez

 

BBX lite and CBRD FMIC soon

cb

 

Stop tempting me

 

This is great. Can't wait to see where this goes. Subd

 

Next round....

 

Welcome back sir!

Carry on with scientific research and awesomeness.

 

I've always liked the AEM box on these cars. But my god - the factory hot pipe looks like balls - forgot what those looked like lol. Something about it just makes me go

 

Alrighty, update!

I guess these intake thingies work.

Red plots = OEM intake
Blue plots = AEM intake with no tune changes

I was actually surprised it ran less boost down low but not surprised it ran a tad more boost up top.

Not a bad gain. Guess it was pretty corked up.

Next I tuned it a bit for the AEM intake. I decided to keep the boost lower in the low and mid range (stock clutch) and raise it a bit 5,000 rpm up.

Red plots = OEM intake
Blue plots = AEM intake with no tune changes
Green plots = AEM intake with tune changes

Even more gains. Pretty impressed actually.

Full gains from after tuning:

Red plots = OEM intake
Green plots = AEM intake with tune changes

+33 whp / +12wtq

Full gains so far from OEM bone stock:

Blue plots = OEM stock Evo 10
Red plots = Intake, Test Pipe, 3 port BCS, Injectors, Fuel Pump, E85, tune

131 whp / 93 wtq

Pretty darn happy with that.

Now to figure out why my IDC's are so high at 92%. I suspect the in tank fuel hose...

 

Leaving the current gain over stock graph here.

Tomorrow the car is getting some attention to it's looks and handling instead of power. New wheels, tires, Bilsteins, swift spec R springs and alignment.

Full gains so far from OEM bone stock:

Blue plots = OEM stock Evo 10
Red plots = Intake, Test Pipe, 3 port BCS, Injectors, Fuel Pump, E85, tune

131 whp / 93 wtq

Pretty darn happy with that.

 

Its awesome to see the actual changes and the differences they make.

 

Yea it's fun, I geek out on this stuff.

Have you seen IDC's this high on stock turbo on E85?

I ran basically the same fuel setup on my RA Sportback with BBX lite and it was only about 6% more IDC. Running same AFR too (11.8-12.1) *scratches head*

 

Your BOV pipe looks a little wonky.

Very cool to finally see what each mod does. Keep it up bro.

 

Your BOV pipe looks a little wonky.

What do you mean?

 

Let me subscribe to this thread so I know to check it as soon as u update it again

 

Very surprised by the intake gains, especially since the AEM intake reuses the factory snorkel. I always thought the narrowest part of the snorkel (where it meets the box) was the restriction on the stock intake. Now I would guess the filter is most restrictive on the stock system which makes me wonder if similar gains can be had with just a drop in.

Any dramatic temperature differences between before and after intake logs?

 

The secret is running the AEM intake without the lid. It's a good compromise between a totally open intake and this. It still shields a good amount of heat. I ran the AEM intake without the box on my RA Sportback because it wouldn't fit and never ran into problems actually.

I discovered years back on a 500hp BBX evo 10 that the lid creates a vac at higher airflow and actually causes the induction tube to collapse. Took it off and boost went back up and HP went up. Obviously that proved that the OEM snorkel is a restriction at some point.

 

Thanks. Useful. Keep it coming!

 

It's cool to see the AEM intake increases… I noticed the exact same increases when I tuned my first X back in 2009 with the AEM. Bolted it on and gained about 20whp. Man, that was ages ago...

 

So I found out that you have to basically slam the Evo 10 if you don't want XXR's to stick out ghetto style in the rear... big bummer as I'm not planning on slamming the car so I think I might be selling these wheels. They look great other then that though. :-/

I need the ride height and the Spec R springs are pretty much perfect for me....

I'll try to get better photos over this weekend.

 

Awesome thread razor! So cool to see such a methodical test run like you did.